BREAKING: CURRENT EVENT A Majority of Americans DO NOT support gay marriage. WAPO

No it isn't. It doesnt say they had sex when he was 16. That is purely your speculation.

 

Your dictionary even agrees with me. Most people don't use a dictionary they use the common definition which is people who have sexual relations.

 

No my dictionary says that having sexual relations is one of 4 definitions- you said it was the only one.

And this is the crux of the manner- you accuse, try and convict Harvey Milk based upon your interpretation of a line in a book, from an interview with a friend of Milk's, years after the fact.

I am just not willing to dig up graves and convict the dead on such flimsy anecdotes. Guess I don't have the proper bias or disregard for the law or facts.

 

If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay. There's the solution. Otherwise, it's none of your business.

 

No, it's not. Two friends of mine call themselves lovers, and both are virgins.

 

You make it my business when you bring your business, your personal relationship, out in the parks and the streets. Flaunt your (*)(*)(*)(*) in front of me and it's my business. I don't want to see that (*)(*)(*)(*) and I don't want my kids to see that (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

You don't dictate what people can and can't do in public. Don't like it, look away. If it's over the top and against public decency laws, call the cops.

Other than that, tough nookies.

 

Then stay out of parks and the street. You dont have a right to not be offended

 

I guess that would explain why most of Americans are not Married and Gay.


... and why they are called a MINORITY

Brilliant

 

And yet a MAJORITY of americans STILL oppose gay marriage and its legal-precedent cousins polygamy and adult-consenting incest marriage.. All are born from behaviors. None are born from race or creed.

 

Except of course a majority of americans do support same sex marriage, as the polls show

 

I see straights doing that all the time. I dont' want my kids seeing that either. I apply the same standards to all people- regardless of their sexual orientation.

 

So?

Seriously so what? I disagree with your numbers but so what?

A majority of Americans opposed interracial marriage- and now think nothing of it. Interracial marriage is a behavior- it is the marriage of a person of one race to a person of a different race- it is a choice and a behaviour- just as much as gay marriage is.

The fundamental question is whether all people should have equal access to the rights and protections or marriages, or only the privileged majority?

On a personal note- I think that the only reason why this is even a controversy is because this debate is about 10 years too soon. 10 years from now, it will be a non-issue and the overwhelming majority will think no more of it than we do now about interracial marriages.

 

But behaviors aren't race. Asking the Supreme Court to equate behaviors with race is opening pandora's box in legal precedent. Why just sexual behaviors? Why not others? And which others? How do you descriminate which? What happens to the penal and civil codes then?

I know right? Just like a "majority" supported the defeat of Prop 8 in California and then it won handily.. Just because lots of gay activists are packing polls on the net and elsewhere; or selecting polling places where gays will show up in artificial numbers not reflective of the general population [like a gay bar or gym] doesn't mean the true numbers will pan out the way they claim.

The Prop 8 syndrome is real in polling.

 

If two (gay) persons getting married is a behaviour, then two persons(of different races) getting married is behaviour.

Either marriage is a behavior or it isn't. You don't get to claim it a behavior only when convenient.

 

Everytime you tell me it's none of my business I will reply with the fact that you people make it my business by flaunting it in my face. It's a fact, deal with it.

 

Two people holding hand in public is throwing it in your face? A couple sharing a meal? Celebrating an anniversary?

Get over yourself. If you're talking about pride parades then look at Madigras or spring breaks. Heterosexuals throw their genitals and sex all over the place at those events.

Go cry about it.

 

You don't even need a special holiday, just come to Las Vegas

 

you don't have a right to not be offended.

 

There is still a difference. With the interracial marriage issue, people were being excluded from a legal activity - heterosexual marriage - simply because of their race. No one is excluding homosexuals from a legal activity due to their orientation.

The behavior of heterosexual marriage is legal, regardless of sexual orientation. A homosexual man may marry any woman who is willing, just like any heterosexual man may. Likewise homosexual marriage is illegal, regardless of sexual orientation. A heterosexual many may not marry another man, just as no homosexual man may marry another man.

 

identical argument used against interracial marriage.

 

That's why they voted to outlaw it in 38 states.

 

it is example of childish logic, arguments are arguments and they are used against any issue.

 

This debate is based on false premises, intellectual dishonesty and outright lie from gay community, so the issue is going to be still the issue, unlike interracial marriage that had overwhelming people's support.

 

No- interracial marriage now has overwhelming support. At the time, the majority of people were against it. Everything else I said still stands:

A majority of Americans opposed interracial marriage- and now think nothing of it. Interracial marriage is a behavior- it is the marriage of a person of one race to a person of a different race- it is a choice and a behaviour- just as much as gay marriage is.

The fundamental question is whether all people should have equal access to the rights and protections or marriages, or only the privileged majority?