BREAKING: Judge Cannon DENIES Trump's motion to dismiss the classified documents case in Florida

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Nobody gets charged for having docs unless they broke other laws like trump did
     
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  2. AmericanNationalist

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    The only 'sin' committed by her Honor is to be fairer to the defendant, than perceived to be acceptable. But that very 'sin' damns the US court system. If we have numbers comparable to Russia(and we do). That's bad, very bad. The courts believe themselves to be beholden to the Government(10th circuit opinion) and that is damaging to democracy.

    The branches are supposed to be separate for a reason. Adversial opposition is a function, not a bug in our system.
     
  3. Vote4Future

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    Keep telling yourself those lies.
     
  4. Vote4Future

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    If a soldier in the U.S. Army, officer or enlisted, took home classified documents they would be court martialed and spend time in prison. Period! Why does Biden get a pass?
     
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    So! YOU are calling me a liar? Please explain where I lied?
     
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    But you believe tRaitor tRump should?
     
  7. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    I guess you people will stop saying that Cannon is rigging the trial in Trump's favor, now.
     
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    I guess you'll stop calling a witch hunt, now?
     
  9. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Oh, it's still a witch hunt...lol
     
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    Just quoting you.
     
  11. The Ant

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    Hmmmm…holding fire on that one. She has given him the option of raising the claim again when the trial starts. Let’s wait and see her response if he does so…which he will of course, if only to create delay.
     
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    The precedence of not charging a former member of an administration for keeping classified documents has already been set. It's called "equal protection under the law".
     
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    Biden didn't get a pass. He was investigated. It was determined that he unknowingly had them, and returned them when asked. Same for Pence. Trump didn't return them. He lied about them. He shared them with others.
     
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    You have to suspend belief to think Biden "didn't know".
     
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    And Pence too. Both returned them willingly when confronted.
     
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    Biden is on tape knowing he possessed classified documents.
     
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    If you cannot see the difference between Biden's behavior and Trump's --- well that's just sad. You do understand that Jack Smith now has people that will testify that Trump suggested to hide or destroy documents? He told others to delete security camera footage. What is very disturbing, is that the FAUX News watchers are never aware of any of the actual evidence, because FAUX News doesn't report any of the Trump cases news.

    https://edition.cnn.com/politics/li...s-06-09-23/h_9390e2eb89bb80da5ad0665837b52359

    Trump suggested his lawyer "hide or destroy documents" sought by subpoena, indictment says

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ne...ified-documents-case-court-papers-2023-07-27/

    US says Trump ordered video deleted, charges second employee in documents case
     
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  18. The Mello Guy

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    So tell me when that’s happened without them also lying or obstructing. I’ve not seen any cases like that.
     
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  19. Bush Lawyer

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    I have never seen anyone ask for a lynching...I have seen many support a prosecution before a non partisan Judge.....yeas I know.....scarce as hen's teeth but don't kid your self Cannon is a hen's tooth or a Lawyer's backside!!

    No-one can deny her history.

    I also suspect she is up to skullduggery, allowing Humpy*** room to raise this Constitution point again at Trial. If a jury falls for it, the AG can do SFA about it.

    I hope the AG has eyes open and closes that door before Cannon can spring the trap.

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    I won't. Her ruling is 'without prejudice' thus allowing Humpty*** to raise the stupid argument in front of the Jury.

    What I reckon is truly fascinating!!!!!!

    Have you blokes heard of Wikileaks and an Australian idiotic moron, Julian Assange?

    He is present wallowing (as he should be for breaching bail conditions) in a UK prison awaiting a decision by a UK Court on whether he can be extradited to the US...and on what charges, you ask me?

    17 against the US Espionage Act of 1917, the very Act Humpty*** reckons is unconstitutional.

    What I just can't understand if that is true...why did not the very well qualified and experienced UK Lawyers dream up that ripper when fighting the extradition? "M'Lord, the Act under which my client is charged in the US, the Act on which this extradition request is based, is invalid, a nullity, void as unconstitutional!!!!!!"

    I guess they know that a UK Court would throw that bullshit argument right out the window, closely followed by them!

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  21. AmericanNationalist

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    Any ruling that is perceived for this criminal defendant would be seen as 'bias'd' for him(as much as Trump would make the case vice versa as well)

    Like the DC judge is in everyone's good graces today, but I wonder what it would be like if she had to grit her teeth and admit that a defense motion(whatever one it might be), should be granted. I wonder what people's thoughts about ms. Chutkin would be then?
     
  22. Bush Lawyer

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    Dunno....because no-one can have confidence in such a politicised judicial system. I guess that leaves me with all here is left.......ie......I do hope that US Juries at least are not so corrupted.
     
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    I don't think juries are corrupted. Actually insofar as my own legal theory is concerned, I see them as victims: A collection of random US Citizens with absolutely no background in trial law, must determine the guilt and the innocence of a criminal defendant(any defendant). And I don't think they are or ever will be equipped to do that(even yes, with jury instruction.)

    As much as I hate what I discovered(that the lawyers themselves wrote the judicial rules on trial proceedings, talk about the wolf guarding the hen house.). Given that, I would actually prefer a Council of Jury: The officers of the court should be the ones that preside over a jury, owing to their expertise and knowledge.
     
  24. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Once it's before a jury, it enters double jeopardy territory. Might be a win for Trump, after all.

    *Equal protection
    *Double jeopardy
    *Defendants have rights
     
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    Then why are Trump lawyers delaying, delaying, delaying all these trials? If he's so innocent, the verdicts will help him.
     

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