BREAKING: Kevin McCarthy Vows to Release All 44,000 Hours of J6 Footage to the Public

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  1. AARguy

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    Do you have a link to that please?
     
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    we already know that. So what lie?
     
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    Lots of folks getting thumped in lots of ways... can't read a name tag or a driver's license in the bunch.
     
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    the right doesn't want people to see video like that

    they want to show the calm in the storm and claim there was no storm

    it was just a Capital tour, didn't you notice how the cops invited them in... </end sarcasm>
     
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    what are republican hiding, release it already
     
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    I consider the lesser of two evils being our choices have been very poor selections. Biden is just as bad if not worse than Trump. We need to get both these clowns away from office.
     
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    It was an invasion of the US Capitol(that's why trespassing and disorderly conduct apply, and applied in all cases.). The issue is whether these rag-tag misfits were 'overthrowing the government'(they couldn't overthrow a city. If the officers had fired deadly weapons, the riot ends in about 20 minutes. They were cowards who attacked an obvious soft spot of our country). But if we remember, there were the Washington riots of a few months earlier, there too the rebellion wasn't put down, even at the insistence of the Trump Administration.

    Had the earlier riots been put down, there isn't a 1/6. 1/6 was possible due to the weakness of the government.

    (by contrasting example, the whole reason for the federal government of 1787 was to quell such rebellions, as the case was in Shay's Rebellion.). To me, our government is weak, politically motivated and incapable of responding to threats. I want to strengthen the US government, for peace and security for All Americans. Roosevelt/Reagan were right about talking quietly with a big stick and with peace through strength.
     
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    they were trying to scare Pence into not certifying the election, thus making Trump the king dictator

    just like in the earlier rioting and looting, I said anyone caught doing either... should be prosecuted... do the crime, do the time

    under Trump they were shooting peaceful protestors with rubber bullets and tear gas, that we should all be upset about - but we should all support stopping the rioting and looting
     
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    Solid joke from Jimmy Kimmel at the Oscars making fun of this poor attempt at GOP revisionist history... many in the audience got it and approved...

    https://twitter.com/therecount/stat...st-and-worst-memorable-moments-052233428.html

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/jimmy-kimmel-smacks-tucker-carlson-051914753.html
     
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    Unless it is BLM or Antifa, then lettem Riot all day long!
     
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    'Peaceful protestors' who literally did the same thing the 1/6ers did, except they had just enough sense not to enter the capitol. This is why Trump made the statements he made, and I backed them up at the time. Had the revolt in Washington been put down sooner, there isn't a 1/6. Yes, sometimes you have to intimidate the citizens in order for them to be law abiding. Why else do we have law enforcement? Not every day can be spent eating donuts lol.

    It was political weakness and cowardice to refuse to step up to the mob, that the mob ruled with violence. Even during the 1/6 aftermath, Sund's released statement amounts to the same thing: Weakness and cowardice. To me, our security apparatus is maintained by those who lack the fortitude for security. When faced with a tiger baring its fangs, you don't pet it.
     
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    and arrest them just the same, do the crime, do the time

    I am not gonna gaslight you and say that was just a peaceful stroll through the stores and stuff they were doing by showing video of them being peaceful at some point in the day
     
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    yes, the peaceful Trump supporters that stayed outside the capital were just fine
     
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    Unfortunately, just about most rioters for Antifa don't get arrested or charged. It is almost like the Left applauds and encourages Antifa and BLM riots. Thus, it is never the same when the other side does it. I am sure the Right wing narrative regarding Antifa and BLM is worse than it seems as well.
     
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    I suppose I'm considered "left" on here (which I find humorous) and I neither applaud or encourage riots.
    I had no problem with the Floyd protests that didn't lead to rioting.
    I had no problem with the deceived showing up the morning of J6 to listen to America's Gasbag whine about losing, until he pointed them to go down the street and fight like hell...
     
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    Can you provide evidence that the Trump guy actually pointed down the street and told them to riot? Because, that just sounds like you repeating some extremist left wing version of events. Because, there were like over a hundred thousand people there and 99.9999% of the people there were peaceful protesting. Now, if Trump actually did point and tell them to riot, then he deserve prison, but I doubt what you have been told how to think actually happened,.
     
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    Didn't say that, did I?

    He told them exactly where to go (and how to get there) and suggested they fight like hell... those are indisputable facts
     
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    At what point did he tell them to riot, go down to congress and fight like hell? I am curious now as your narrative appears incredibly different than what actually happened. It almost sounds like your are parroting exactly what some extremist website told you what happened.

    I am not a fan of Trump either, but I hate extremists who take hard line stances for either side making assumptions or just plain being a complete sheeped tool for their party without looking at all the facts first. I mean, if the Left or Right Wing site told you how to think what happened, then what does that make you?
     
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    If you haven't bothered to read the transcript of his remarks, I really cannot help you here...

    It's all in there...

    I personally don't encourage anybody to read the first hour of that rambling nonsense and to skip on down to the final 8 paragraphs, the "takeaways" section of every well crafted speech.... and this one too..

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    And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

    Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.

    And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.

    So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.

    The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

    So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

    I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America.

    Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

    Where are we going and what are we going to do when we get there?

    Granted, I don't think any of this is necessarily criminal, but it was certainly a reason to convict his impeachment in the Senate...
     
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    Well, that's CNN's take anyway.

    Screenshot 2023-01-07 144150.png
     
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    So, every single time a Politician asks his constituents to fight it means riot to you?

    I still don't get where you think Walk down Pennsylvania and protest means riot in any frame of mind except to someone who takes extremist sides to every issue as told to by their party like a good sheep. Well done. You might make a perfect sheep someday taking things out of context.

    If Trump somehow wins the next election of which I sure hope to god he doesn't, I wouldn't be surprised to see you rushing the capital.
     
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    What were they supposed to be “fighting” for at that stage? The election was over. Biden won. Trump lost. All states had verified and certified the results.
    The only thing happening in the Capitol was confirming the EC votes that the various states had already cast.
    The only reason to “fight” was to overturn the election. Revolution. Insurrection. Sedition.
     
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    I believe what I saw myself on 1/6, which was put into a lot better context after reading the link I posted to you, along with the presentations during the 1/6 hearings...The sheep are the ones who believe what they are told, which would seem to be you in this case...

    Trump wanted something like what happened on 1/6 to happen.
    He did nothing to stop it for a dangerously long time
    That it didn't fully work as planned ** doesn't change it was a full blown attempt at sedition...

    ** It partially worked, as the certification was delayed, but not as planned, because the Congress came back and finished the job.

    Enjoy being lied to..
     
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    I found this link earlier today... wasn't sure what to do with it, but I think you could get some benefit out of it.. How to replace Fox News in your life

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    Start your own at-home Fox News network
    If you want to remain in a bubble that protects you from information and facts that run afoul of your worldview, you don’t need Fox News. There’s a simple do-it-yourself approach that allows you to kick that lying network to the curb and still hear only what you want to hear.

    All you’ll need are these household items: a mirror; hair gel; a notepad and pen; and a chair.

    Step 1: Take the notepad and write down things that make you angry. Next to each item, write down who you want to blame for those things.

    Step 2: Apply ample hair gel and style your hair as professionally as possible.
    Step 3: Sit down in the chair, look into the mirror and angrily read the things you wrote on the notepad to yourself.
    Repeat this process approximately 20 times a day and you will have successfully replicated Fox News.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-lied-ways-move-100001783.html
     

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