Britain Plots To Attack Iran

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  1. frodo

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    Breaking news:Craig Murray, a former British Ambassador, reports the leaked information that Britain is plotting with Israel and America to attack Iran - exactly the same process as used to start the Iraq war. This article has been buried by the mainstream media, despite the fact that they publish many other stories by Craig Murray.


    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/
     
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    I am agreeing more with the Egyptian ambassador interviewed last week who said the plan is to take Iran and control ME oil and in turn control Asian markets who rely on that oil. To take Iran they have to first take Syria as the others in the plan have already been taken or disrupted so much. Libya was vital to ensure supply to Europe in the meantime if war breaks out.
    Saudi is at the hub along with the USA and Israel.
    His words and it seems he is accurate so far.
     
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    Who is Matthew Gould,and why is he credible?
     
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    That's sound like some hair-brained conspiracy theory by a rank amateur.
     
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    There's no secret or conspiracy .
    This information is freely available everywhere .
    Because it is available to all the " Chattering " Class , it is almost certainly just tactical and/ or drum beating .
    Regardless , contingency plans are always made and evolving .
     
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    so far he has been accurate we just need to see if the Iran thing is next to tick off on his list and it seems it is
     
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    Iran's oil production is declining. They import $6 billion a year in petrol because they have no refinery capacity.

    They need $48 billion in investment to develop South Pars and they have gas rationing.

    Who is going to invest in Iran? If we launch a war which we cannot afford, how many years will it take before its safe for any oil companies to go into Iran.
     
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    thats the problem

    the plan is never going to succeed and we all know that but you need to tell your mad presidents and the likes of Gingrich etc

    There is an insanity in the US caused by many things and you need to be stopped because you will not win.
     
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    Margot; Matthew Gould is the current British Ambassador to Israel.

    Craig Murray has various sources inside the British Government who want to get this story out and stop an attack on Iran.

    Exxon has just signed up the Iraqi Kurds to access the Kurdish oil fields. That should create more instability in Iraq and Turkey.
     
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    America? Oh great. Code Pink is going to be all over Obama... NOT! :bored:
     
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    Contingency plans are developed ALL the time.

    I wouldn't worry about Exxon or BP.. They never go near a war zone until the hostilities end.
     
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    voila
    all part of the plan to control and invade and destabilize and if they control the ME even if they dont get any oil out of the ground they control the prices and the Asian markets and supply
     
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    How in fantasy will they control sales to Asian markets?
     
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    If you control the ME and secure Libyan oil for Europe then who are the Chinese and Koreans and Malaysians and Japanese and Indians going to buy from?
     
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    Libya only produces 1.6 million barrels a day and 1/3 of that is for domestic consumption.

    The Asian have been buying 40% of Saudi production for over a decade.
     
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    Plotting? LOL Sounds serious!

    The reality is that the U.S., Israel, Britain, and half a dozen countries neighboring Iran are planning the response to the IAEA report.
     
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    This propaganda is driven by Israel who wants to claim all this support.

    There are smarter, more effective ways to deal with Iran based on the current situation in Iran.
     
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    There is a significant issue which has been overlooked in this. While Werrity might have been 'up to something' behind the scenes, he had (alledgedly!) no official capacity in government, and has even less now that his 'friend' has had to resign over the Werrity issue itself. Fox may have been in on it, and may have had more in mind than contingency plans, but he's gone now. Even Cameron might have had some idea of what was going on, although it's extremely unlikely that he would get involved in such a project - after what happened over Iraq, it's a poltical risk he knows he couldn't possibly afford to take with the people of the UK at the moment even if he had a Tory majority in parliament, the political situation being what it currently is.

    HOWEVER, and this is the big problem with it, the current UK government would be pretty much 100% guarenteed to collapse in the unlikely event that they tried to go ahead with such a plan. The Lib Dems steadfastly and fundementally opposed the war in Iraq from day one, and there is simply no way they would support a war in Iran. No way at all. Even in the extremely unlikely event of Clegg being somehow 'in on it' and trying to support it, he absolutely would be removed as party leader with immediate effect by his own party, and his MPs would simply not support it under any circumstances. The Lib Dems have been criticising for 'compromising' for the sake of coalition, but support a war against Iraq is something that they would just not do at any price. With the collapse of the coalition in the current economic and political climate, the Tories would not last long as a minority government before complete collapse and a new general election (and at the moment that would plunge the UK into political chaos, and a party that had just caused that chaos by starting another expensive and deeply unpopular war wouldn't be likely to come out of that chaos very well!).

    Whatever 'plans' may have been drawn up behind the scenes (and I'm sure there are many 'plans' around the MOD, for all kinds of hair-brained operations that won't ever go ahead!), the UK government is not in a poltical position to attempt to go ahead with them, however much some individuals may want to. It's just not going to happen anytime soon, and probably not ever, unless there is some huge momentous change in the situation.
     
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    Excellent post...
     
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    Great post.
     
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    As yet, there have not been calls for a "war". No calls for invasion, nation building......not even an extended "No Fly Zone".

    So far, it is shaping up to be a coalition of some NATO countries, Israel, as well as six Persian Gulf Cooperation Council members, which comprises Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar, U.A.E. and Kuwait.

    The Bunker buster bomb deal with U.A.E. being only a step in the direction.
     
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    I guess Germany read the IAEA report and sees no evidence.

    Well done Germany for not being sucked into the hysteria!
     
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    UK will not attack Iran on it's own....... will it join a coalition? Most definitely.
     

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