Britain sold nerve gas chemicals to Syria 10 months after 'civil unrest' began

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/u...n-sold-nerve-gas-2242520#.UiNndad3jpw.twitter

just goes to show that the rationale "We know they have WMDs because we gave them to them" hasn't gone out of style. How many times have western interests used this to justify going to war?

Bill hicks put it well:

[video=youtube;6X56vWHFGGU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X56vWHFGGU[/video]

 

Cameron was probably trying to "kill two birds with one stone” by "giving Assad enough rope to hang himself".

In other words, Cameron could earn a tidy sum for his country by selling nerve gas chemicals to Syria, while hoping Assad could be foolish enough to accomplish his own downfall by using them on the rebels.

kill two birds with one stone
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/kill+two+birds+with+one+stone

rope
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rope

 

he does have some history with the uk i dont think he ever wanted to become a leader, more of a doctor it appears,,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashar_al-Assad

 

I was wondering how the CIA organised for the Al-Qaeda "rebel forces',to get the Sarin gas ,precursors.Oh course ,CIA front Companies in Syria and British MI5 ,the Cold war mechanisms just keep going .

Are the "Corporations "involved mentioned ?

Halliburton Inc ,and I will be done.Could it be?

Please oh Truth PLEASE ,let it be so!

 

It's also used in small amounts in my toothpaste.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/issues/health/

 

Actually, the monofluorophosphate they are using in most brand name toothpastes now may even be more poisonous.
It is well known that monofluorophosphate esters have weak acetylcholine-inhibiting effects, similar to nerve gas but several orders of magnitude less potent.

 

Well, let's be fair here; most of them will harp on their own country well enough - they just take offense when someone ELSE does it - especially Americans!

Nevertheless, it won't be long before the UK contingent starts deflecting onto American wrongs. Be patient!

 

We always knew who was responsible, because our Conservative goverment has the receipts.

 

Well on the Gossip vine of the International Proletariat ,The MI-5 Link ,old tag team ,"Cold War Comrades" take Note,exporting the Precursors to "Syrian Companies " ,read ,"Al-Qaeda Rebels"=CIA!


US Imperialism's policy is to spit on the graves of the Soldiers ,who died fighting Al-Qaeda, let me guess Obama LIES AGAIN, Stop all support by the CIA for Al-Qaeda I reckon .As does the Working Class.

And then the Vote from the clouds ,against WAR!

Even the Stinking Den of senile decay ,British Imperialism's Parliament!

The newly acquired ,"Democratic behaviour"means fear of something !

British Proletariat Twitch's ,the Queens Government Trembles.

Oh, well back to kicking the crap out of the ALP Rudd Nearly over Political Party .

 

They didn't sell anything , the company only tried to sell chemical agents.

Yes toothpaste is bad for your health use soda instead .

 

I'm not sure where you guys are getting your information from, as the article I posted doesn't say 1) that the fluoride chemicals were sold only to Syrian companies and not the government, and 2) it doesn't say that none were sold at all. If you've got information to back up those claims, I'd love to see it. The information I found in this article was said in different ways in different articles elsewhere, but how much of, from whom and to whom these chemicals were sold to hasn't been revealed to the best of my knowledge. Regardless, which faction's hands they got into doesn't really matter does it? The rationale for a strike is that chemical weapons were used, and any country that favors one side or the other will have a vested interest in saying the faction that they support didn't use them.

What matters in the context of the article is that Cameron's government was allowing the export of chemicals used in the formulation of convention-banned weapons to a country embroiled in a civil war... If either side used these ingredients to create chemical weapons, then the UK was a facilitator of a war crime and should face sanctions themselves. The added hypocrisy of using that war crime in an effort to try to get the UK to then go and attack Syria is outrageous. Their export might be the cause of the US killing hundreds or thousands of innocent civilians in the near future.
That's the issue here.

Oh, and USSR - if the CIA wanted sarin for Assad's opposition, they wouldn't have needed to import precursors of it from the UK. They'd have no problem procuring it themselves, I'm sure.

 

source : BBC

 

thanks for citing the source material, but I have my doubts about the comments made by the department that would be under the gun in accounting for issuing the export permits to begin with. It would also behoove any company that did export those chemicals to "lose" any documentation if it existed, since their stock price would definitely suffer if they were found to be supporting convention banned activity. It could very well be political posturing by opposition to conservatives though. My guess is that we'll never really know.

This whole debate should really get people wondering about the toothpaste and aluminum products they use though.

 

How old are you as I am 55years old ,and remember the "Cold War" as if like yesterday.

The CIA ,does the 'Dirty Work" that the US President wants "Secret".as the old school play book goes.

The Precursors ,are acquired in Brittan,call MI5,that's another Cover up ,Dirty Work of the British Government organisation BTW,well the CIA ,US Imperialism's Dirty tricks department,the Assassination Department is now in the White House Oval Office,drone division,

So, the CIA calls MI5, and arranges a Shipment,to Syria ,no links to CIA or their Al-Qaeda Operatives.Oh ,do you think that they7 Don't have operatives IN Al-Qaeda ,Newsflash ,the CIA formed Al-Qaeda , as is common Knowledge.

Its how the CIA and MI% have always operated in the Past ,except now Obama does his own Assassinations .The struggle against the Criminal Provocation against the Syrian People ,and their Government,see Democracy as a principle demands ,that ONLY the SYRIAN PEOPLE ,and NOT the CIA\Al-Qaeda Counter-Revolutionary ,FASCSITS,can determine THEIR GOVERNMENT !

My best guess is because ,we are dealing with ,the delivery getting to the Al-Qaeda ,they had a Industrial Accident ,spies and Petty-Bourgeois Provocateurs, make crap chemists ,what can I say .

But what is for sure the Shipments that were going from Brittan ,WERE not for the "Regime" Assad or the Syrian Military!

Leaving the only people presently on the ground interested in such things ,CIA\Al-Qaeda ,and I get the point that the Stench that is the British Bourgeoisie,never turns up a Profit from Human misery.And if they can use it for Political capital as well ,then Double down on Mass murder ,by Al-Qaeda \CIA of the Syrian Civilian Population .

Factually by the Way ,if it was the Syrian Military they ,have 3 options as far as Chemical Munitions .

Anyway, its all about saving face for the Assassin President of the US Imperialism .How many more deserve to die for that!

Just,so we don't see the decrepit ,Uncle .nay Great Great Uncle Sam,GIVE IT UP ,Hands off Syria!

In his ,dementia ,delusion of past Glories ,Venal,and distorted our Old OLD uncle sam,

Oh and the Slathering ,frothing at the Mouth ,Imperialist Allie France and its Rabid Lap dog ,Hollande of French Social Imperialist Democracy.

 

Your source is funded by the government ,sorry it is a question of applying the "Vested interest rule",in matters as this all government Departments are considered under the force of their Boss ,.!

That be as it may ,I don't think that many Syrians have been into ,"Shiny Aluminium Thingy's",for house renovations .Do You?

But as we see its easy so their fore good for "Rebels" Al-Qaeda ,if the Australian Government ,BTW, was against Al-Qaeda ,then they would send the Australian SAS ,from Afghanistan to Syria ,at the disposal of the Syrian Military ,joint exercise with the Syrian Military ,NOW, I would agree with that.

And it kills 3 birds with one stone ,Stops the March toward WW3,Smacks US Imperialism straight in the Nuts,and destroys decades of murderous Provocations by the CIA!

Australian troops are NOT going ,and every Australian government will be bought down ,over the question of WAR!

The Whole WMD, thing was so Yesterday ,President Assassin Obama ,after the CIA formed Al-Qaeda against the USSR!

Good try ,but unfortunately, we the People REMEBER !

I say ,as does the Industrial Working Class!

And my party, the www.wsws.org

Has a bit more to say ,the International Working Class addresses American Democracy in its crisis.

 

Lucky our "Aluminium shiny thing" factory had a stockpile .June 2012,and Syria was going for a year ,by then .

Indeed, we have to now go back ,a whole 3 years ,in History to see a Syria with its problems ,sure ,but not descending into Barbarism ,now that started when the "Rebels" started getting "Supported" by OBAMA ,Obama is a Traitor to every American soldier who has died in Afghanistan !

So Therefore to the People of America,Impeachment clauses were included in the Constitution for times ,just like these.When Idiots thinks themselves Dictator not President!

 

USSR, I sympathize with, understand, or already know about a lot of what you've expressed over the last three posts, and trust me, a lot of other USAnians (the ones with consciences at least,) do too. But as far as impeachment as a solution goes, not only will it never happen, but do you think Biden would be any better? He's more aligned with Zionist interests than Obama is, and he'd be the one that took over if Obama is impeached.

If McCain had won in 2008, this conversation would've taken place at least four years ago, and if Romney had pulled it off last year, you'd likely have had the same result.

US presidents act like dictators largely because of the expansion of the executive branch's ability to act unilaterally under Cheney's philosophy of the "Unitary Executive," which Obama has whole-heartedly embraced.

They basically are figurehead dictators appointed by large financial interests at this point, and without breaking the influence of western corporations on government, this same direction of foreign policy will likely continue unabated.

 

From my reading the company ,was stopped from further sales ,or the MI5 front was compromised and shut down .

Now back to what people think about the US government arming and supporting Al-Qaeda in Syria , I suppose it opens the way for negotiations with the Taliban in Afghanistan ,Karzai their former Puppet ,need watch his arse!

 

The only road after all avenues are exhausted ,is a Return ,nay ,a Resurrection to the Revolutionary Traditions of the American Democracy as constituted ,by 'The People".

In this period of History that would be the American Socialist revolution ,as you correctly say ,Obama just personifies the political Interests of the Financial Wall Street elites.As did Cheney and Bush.

The "ones with a Consciences" ,I would argue are those still moved by the Democratic Traditions of the First 2 American Revolutions ,1770-76 and 1860-65.

2008-? ,as the third is yet complete.

The depository of true American democracy ,is the Working Class of America in a struggle for emancipation of all society from the Dictatorship of Wall street and Obama the Assassin President .

I laugh ,when the question ,of "Saving the integrity of the Office ,of President" is muted, what integrity ,from the Discredited "War on Terror" ,the Integrity of Mass murder and crimes against Millions of Innocents?

Integrity ,with the Direct Backing of Fascistic Al-Qaeda Sectarians, maybe they have stolen the word Hypocrisy, and changed its meaning .

Luckily ,1 Political party mobilises, and speaks for those with no voice. The SEP ,

www.wsws.org

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/07/syri-s07.html

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/02/meet-s02.html

Support and Join the Revolutionary Tradition of American Democracy .

The only Party of Integrity and Principle struggle against the Wall Street Parasites ,like Obama, Cheney, Biden ect ect.

 

no, thank you. If I wanted to get involved with a group that had a chance of gathering enough interest to get the ball rolling, it couldn't be one that would have the negative association with soviet communism. Maybe it would've been an option had Glasnost not shown how corruptible that sort of system is and how it lends itself to an opaqueness that allows for even more effective double-speak than the US is suffering from now.

 

The US Imperialism and Stalinism ,which you call "Soviet Communism " ,had a Baby together its called The United Nations,as far as Double speak ,well the World centre is Undoubtedly the United Nations.

The Counter-Revolutionary den of thieves and lies that the Assassin Obama will seek cover from ,the United Nations.

The only Political Party that opposes Stalinism and Imperialism ,the SEP \ICFI,so if you ever want to actually change things instead of whining and complaining about how ,bad things are getting .

www.wsws.org

 

My toothpaste contains stannous fluoride. Yeah, I looked at the tube after reading the OP.