bush and obama both warn about pandemic

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    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    just watch some speech by both bush and obama warn about pandemic and the need to prepare it. trump increase military spending but reducing health care spending, CDC spending etc.



     
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    Listen to Obama carefully.

    Obama gets on TV saying he's monitoring the flu and preparing "to do what ever it takes" to stop the spread of the Mexican Swine Flu. Apparently, closing the southern border and banning air travel to Mexico for other than immediate family of U.S. citizens and permanent residents was beyond what ever it takes. Obama declared a national emergency just 19 days before the CDC "reported an estimated 22 million Americans had been infected with 2009 A H1N1 and 4,000 Americans have died."
     
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    Meanwhile Trumps response was to defund the pandemic response teams initially deny there was a pandemic and then threaten funding to WHO
     
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    so we got 400k infect and 20k dead, imagine the death rate if its 22 million infected. H1N1 was a toddler compare to even regular flu, thats why its ignored, but you dont ignore something much more deadly as COV19
     
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    What part was ignored, be specific with links to reliable news sources.
     
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    A toddler? It was 6 months and 4,000 dead before Obama declared a National Emergency? That's the definition of ignoring it. Plus he never restricted travel to the country of origin (Mexico).
     
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    You keep reposting the same old same old misleading information

    Don’t you ever get tired of being proven wrong?

    Obama declared a public health emergency early on in the epidemic
     
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    What's being ignored is that we DO need naional planning for contagious disease response.

    Obama recognized that our response to N1H1 was inadequate and started a group to create such a plan. Like FEMA, such a team could learn and improve our response, coordinated with states.

    We still need that - as made clear by current events.

    Trump's firing of that group is costing American lives right now, and our federal response is total chaos, with even FEMA working against us.
     
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    Of course not, what's a few thousand American lives when a MEXICAN virus might threaten the MEXICAN vote farm? Perish the thought.

    Gonna be funny to see all the shills trying to shift this onto Trump, take some advice, put your efforts solely into ballot fraud, any propaganda on COVID is a waste of money.
     
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    6 month, 4k, no lockdown compare to 1 1/2 month, with lockdown and 20k death. imagine how many gonna die if we dont have lockdown. the health official warn it since Jan. SK got the 1st case same time as US, they lock it down pretty soon after that, which slow down the virus quite a bit.

     
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    gee, calling it flu, downplay it, said it will be gone in couple weeks, take your pick.
     
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    You know what? Go right ahead and lock down NYC as long as you like, maybe a few of the other urban hotspots too, sounds grand!

    The rest of us, though? A vast geographical majority of this country that IS no worse than a seasonal flu, that is going to be "unlocked" in the next very few days, based on the faulty, lying, exaggerated models alone, should have never been "locked" in the first place. That's a fact, so whatever you have to do about NYC and wherever one or two other places sounds fine.

    Almost ALL of the rest will be open for business, and if they don't... without being within those very few hotspots? Watching the National Guard crack lots of LW-Democrat-bureaucrat skulls on live TV and arresting obstructive governors? Well that's just fine too.
     
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    Why? They didn't save many when H1N1 was around, what sort of recommendations did they make after H1N1? Did they wait till now to do that? Close the border to all but essential traffic and restrict travel to Mexico allowed the virus to flood into the United Stares unrestricted.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...nald-trump-fire-pandemic-officials-defund-cd/
     
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    Just imagine how many might have lived if Obama/Biden had closed the border to all but essential traffic and restricted air travel to Mexico and cut off the virus pipeline. No room to criticize.
     
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    Where's your link to a news source?
     
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    No, Obama did not wait.

    Obama established a group to work something like FEMA, but focused on planning and preparation for contagious disease outbreak in America.

    We were not prepared for h1n1.

    There is no excuse for us to have remained unprepared since then. It was VERY well known that the world (including our continent) is highly vulnerable to pandemic.

    We''ve been warned over and over again. And, Trump didn't just fail in his feckless "response" to COVID19 - he eliminated the team that was working on that.
     
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    Insanity is doing the same thing, but expecting a different outcome.

    Since h1n1, our only progress toward strengthening our response was killed by Trump.

    HE was POSITIVE that we could do the same thing and get a different outcome.
     
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    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...nald-trump-fire-pandemic-officials-defund-cd/

    What happened to the next 7 years under Obama, didn't he get us ready after H1N1?
     
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    What bills were proposed?
     
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    ?? Congress does congress.

    Besides:

    Do you seriously think that Boehner would cooperate with ANYTHING Obama said on ANY topic no matter how critical to American security?

    If you DO think so, I can help you with some significant examples.

    Obama put in place an important piece of national security due to experience with contagious disease.

    Severl presidents have gone through that - the Kansas flu, for example.

    Obama was the one who identified that we need to have a national reaction plan to address natural or manmade contagion - such as we have with FEMA for a different type of disaster.

    Trump killed it.

    Period.
     
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    go google jan/feb news, its all over the news on how Trump calling it flu, it will be gone in few weeks etc, he was golfing during that time too.
     
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    H1N1, its less sever than FLU, thats why they didn't close border, if it was similar to COV19, they will treat it differently.
     
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    Nobody reading believes that and neither do you. We know -exactly- why the Obama ignored the Mexican flu and took exactly -0- measures to save U.S. lives that might interfere with the Democrats' illegal alien plantation.
     
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    pretty sure most believes it, except trumpster, if trump tell them to jump, they will ask how high. H1N1 lethality was proven, its lower compare to seasonal FLU, thats why no one did anything, google it.
     
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