Buying American creates jobs, you bet.

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  1. nom de plume

    nom de plume New Member

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    No argument. It serves as a warning label -- not to buy it.
     
  2. conhog

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    Auto manufacturers are a good example of this. My brother just recently bought a Hyundai Sonata that was built in Alabama while I just recently bought a Ford Focus that was built in Michigan. Does one create more American jobs than the other?
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    thanks, that answers my question :)
     
  4. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    You may want to try here.

    http://corporate.ford.com/our-company/investors/upcoming-investor-events/webcastevent-detail/fmcwebcast-20131203?packedargs=releaseId%3D1244759557356

    From the report, it looks like Ford is breaking numbers in China, India, and the U.S, among other places. Their sales were up 7% domestically and 9% overall. This would mean that their revenue is increasing faster in other parts of the world as well as the U.S. It would also mean that the Global recession may be coming to a close if world domestic spending is on pace with U.S. domestic spending.

    And it looks like the Job Report is not a fake after all. LOL

    - - - Updated - - -

    No. But some people will say that the Hyandae is not American made while the Ford is. Go figure.
     
  5. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just wanted to plug Shinola.

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    A new precision watch (and bicycle) manufacturer who decided to headquarter and flagship in Detroit. They brought in Swiss master watchmakers to train their fabricators and are 100% US made materials... the leather, the metals, the crystal, the rubber... from various places in the US.
    http://www.modeldmedia.com/features/shinola113.aspx

    You can buy them at Nordstroms etc. So... as you go shopping this Christmas season... keep them and mind, and put them on your Christmas list.
     
  6. conhog

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    We traded cars for a few days just for fun, and both of us would have been happy with the other vehicle. THey are nearly identical in terms of quality . He preferred the looks of the Hyundai while I prefer the power of the ST..
     
  7. Omicron

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    Did you hear how Taiwan rolled with the economic punch-down of 2008?

    They created a new currency that could only be spent on stuff that was made in Taiwan, and started releasing it by paying it to government employees.

    In a way, it was a short-term purchasing-power reduction of government employees, because government employees couldn't buy cheeper stuff from Indonesia, but it kept Taiwanese producers going, and the currency trickled out to producers so *they* had to buy made-in-Taiwan part and supplies to keep making-or-doing what they did... and it achieved its results... Taiwan's economy took less of a hit compared to other global-trading nations.

    If I was you, I'd check to see if there are any taxes embedded in the sale of those tires, and if so, I'd push my congressman or senator or state rep to eliminate sales taxes on anything made in America.

    It's not going to hurt government revenue, because instead of collecting it as sales-tax, they now get it as income-tax on the American workers kept employed because people bought their tires instead of the S.Korean's, plus it should reduce the cost of government, because now it won't have to pay out revenue as welfare to tire-makers left unemployed because people bought S.Korean.
     
  8. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is true. If manufactures know Americans want to support American made products, more companies will bring their product back here like Whirlpool did with their hand mixers. That is one of the few kitchen appliances we now make in America. But it doesn't have to be the last.

    Wages are really going up in China along with oil and container costs of shipping products back here. There is no longer that big gap in making it here or making it in China. If manufactures felt Americans would make an extra effort of buying American, even if the price was a little higher, many would move back. But if they don't see that effort, they could as easily move it to Mexico or S. America. There is only one true way of bringing up the poor and Middle Class and that is through jobs.
     
  9. Wake_Up

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    here's an interesting example:

    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/12/12/map-shows-what-it-takes-to-make-one-single-jar-nutella/

    It's pretty clear there is really very little that is "American made" anymore as most products have "Global Value Chains".

    The premise you're looking for is not so much "American made" as it is, which brand/company potentially employs the most Americans.

    Companies that produce goods, or have plants, offices, etc in the U.S. and employee lots of Americans would do good to point this out in their marketing and ad strategies.

    The bottom line, however will always be the consumer. One of two lines they will take when looking to purchase an item: 1) price - many simply want the cheapest item. 2) Quality - some, who are able to afford it, will opt for top quality.
     
  10. conhog

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    BUT, if you don't have any extra money to spend on American made, then you don't have the money. I'm fairly comfortable, and I'm still unwilling to travel out of town and pay a 20% premium on most things just to buy American, when WM has just as good a product here in town for less money.

    Maybe we need to rethink some of our trade policies which actively encourage these companies to leave the US.
     
  11. Professor Peabody

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    I just looked at my tube of Crest toothpaste, it says Distributed by Proctor & Gamble, Cincinnati OH. No where on the tube of tooth paste does it say made in USA. Same way at Walmart, look at their store brands "Great Value" stuff. I'm quite sure that stuff is NOT made in the U.S., but the packaging doesn't say where it's made, it says Distributed by Walmart, Bentonville AK. How are we to tell where it's made when it's only marked who is distributing it?

    I guess that just another law/regulation our Government selectively decided NOT to enforce.
     
  12. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's getting to be hard to tell an American owned company anymore as many are being bought up by foreigners. But it will tell you right on the side of the tire where it's made.

    Same with where a product is made. You can no longer see an American name on a product and be sure it's made in the US. But I have discovered that many store brands are American made. Even more so than big named brands and according to Consumer Report, the quality is mostly as good or better. Along with being cheaper. Such as Cosco's Kirkland fabric softener, American made and is as good as most of the bigger named fabric sheets made out of the country. Finish automatic dishwasher makes tablets made in the USA and Poland. But you won't know where unless you look at the bottom of the box.
     
  13. smevins

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    Store brand products are generally made by the producers of name-brand products. They might use a different recipe sometimes or use the less than premium ingredients, but they are usually from a known company.
     
  14. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One thing all Americans want is blue jeans and there are still some manufactures that sell 100% made blue jeans. One is Texas jeans. http://madeinusaforever.com/jeans.html

    Another is not only made in America, but the label will tell you on what farm the material of the cloth was grown on. You can't get anymore American than that.

    http://www.allamericanclothing.com/
     
  15. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely more spending creates more jobs.

    And is we had the approximately $650 billion per year more spending we'd have if the middle class was getting the same share of the nation's income it did 30 years ago, you'd be seeing a lot more hiring.
     
  16. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shinola Watches, Made In Detroit, Bring New Industry To Motor City

    DETROIT -- Detroit has a long history of manufacturing – cars, steel, even popcorn.

    Now, the city is home to a facility devoted to the production of an item not made at this scale in the U.S. for decades: the wristwatch.

    The Dallas-based Shinola Company is manufacturing its Shinola brand of watches in Detroit.

    Shinola officials say this year's watch production target is 45,000, to be sold online, at flagship stores in Detroit and New York and at fashion and jewelry retailers and department stores nationwide.

    Early returns are positive. Shinola sold a limited-edition round of 2,500 watches in less than a week.

    Either way, watchmaking, which hasn't been a thriving American industry for a while, once again appears to be ticking.

    Watch the video here: http://bit.ly/15MC0G7

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/09/shinola-watches-detroit_n_3246672.html
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well 30 years ago, we had millions of more jobs, that are now out of the country. But if we tried to buy what we make here, it would create more jobs, like Ford adding 5,000 more jobs because more people are buying Fords. You can't expect to spend more if we aren't making more, or we aren't creating jobs by buying what we make. It would seem like the only answer for some is just taxing more and not even thinking of what they buy. You might look at the post I put up on Ireland and the fast comeback they are doing. Mostly by cutting corporate taxes.
     
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    The middle class, the great engine of spending, was getting a larger portion of the nation's income and sharing in its prosperity.

    Who's making more?
     
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    I know what store brands are, the real question is where are they made? BTW Crest toothpaste is NOT a store brand and it carries the "Distributed by" only.
     
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    Toyota creates as many jobs as Ford or GM in terms of employees per car so why not buy Toyota?

    Buying what is not made here also creates jobs although not manufacturing jobs.

    If a person believes they are poor...IMO that person should take steps to change their situation or stop complaining.

    Not many companies earn huge profits?
     
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    Regarding the bold, how about 80% or more of everything at Target, Macy's, Sears, Kmart, Ace Hardware, Sports Authority, Nordstrom's, Best Buy, Bed Bath and Beyond, etc. etc. etc. nearly all clothing, all electronics!
     
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    If you look at this website; http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/How_American_is_Your_Car/ you will see that Ford shows up four times on the list of Least American Domestic cars. And the percentages shown of foreign content are erroneous because they include content from Canada which for some reason is not considered imported??
     
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    Ask the stores. There are only 2 dairy companies in mass production in the US so all their milk traces back to either PET or Maola regardless of what the brand is on the label. There is a premium name-brand food processing facility near me that does runs for one of the grocery chains but I forget which one now. A lot of the off-brand tires are still produced by Goodyear or Goodrich or one of their subsidiaries. Knowing what the product is probably will give you the biggest clue as to whom actually produces/packages it for them. If it is a pickle product, it is probably Mt. Olive for instance.
     
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