Can Rick Perry defeat Barack Obama?

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Baseballboy, Aug 30, 2011.

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Who would you currently support in a Perry vs Obama election?

  1. Rick Perry

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  2. Barack Obama

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    35.4%
  3. Other candidate

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  4. Wouldnt vote

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  1. other guy

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    1. You need t learn to count, just look at this thread. Just the names(LIBHATER) saying anyone who voted for Obama is an idiot. that is what I call name calling, as opposed to disagreeing with a policy or position.
    2. If you really think that the blacks are not going to be coming out in droves to vote for Oboma, theres nothing I can say. Basically ,same with the Latinos.
    3 As for the seniors, You must be a young person, Kind of out of touch with the older crowd. The right has really scared the older folks with their insistance on cutting Medicare and Social Security while protecting tax cuts for the rich an even wanting to increase them while opposing extending the payroll tax cut for all Americans.
    4 I could go on but its already been said and you didn't listn then so I would not expect for you to hear me now
     
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    Short answer...NO!!!
     
  3. Yukon

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    Will Christian people NOT vote for President Obama ? Are the hate-filled, racist, homophobes that make up a clear majority of **********s considered to be Christian ?
     
  4. Shangrila

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    Begs to question why some want to cause strive, esp when supposedly having preached love and peace.
     
  5. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    And so does Obama......they all do when needed....
     
  6. Marlowe

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    Dumb Yanks - will just go on and continue making the wrong choice and spend another 4 years in regret .

    Rick Perry ? HAHAHAHA - GOOD LUCK .- gawd bless + SAVE America.
     
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    Anyone that thinks social issues will have any significant impact on next year's election is dreaming. Next year will be all about jobs and the economy. Two things Perry stands head and shoulders above Obama on.
     
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    Sorry some of us would rather vote for whom we want not what others want us to vote for. Either Politician elected would result in the same old crap Philosophy from the previous Administration with a twist. Sorry I don't fall in line with the masses who Elected the failures of this Nation over... and over.
     
  9. Dware

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    He can and he will.

    What's obama going to run on? Being black?
     
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    mertex New Member Past Donor

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    What's Perry running on? Having great hair?
     
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    mertex New Member Past Donor

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    Ha,ha, you mean minimum wage jobs? Most good jobs created in Texas were not because of anything great Perry has done, but rather the natural resources of Texas.

    Perry is an empty suit, with hair.
     
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    That's what happens when you drink too much Kool-Aid! Hallucinations.
     
  13. Shangrila

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    Since we are sadly still waiting for the vast job creations, Obama is nothing but an empty suit with hair?
    As an aside, isn't it amazing how quickly they turn gray once in office?
    Betcha Perry would color.
     
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    Given that this Forum leans right, it's amazing that Obama is only behind by 2!

    Maybe the GOP better come up with another candidate?
     
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    If the Republicans in Congress would get off their butts and instead of thinking of ways to get more tax cuts to the rich or how to make Obama look bad, maybe they could put their pointed heads together and help find a way to create jobs.

    But, even with his gray hair, Obama is still a lot smarter, and conscientious about the regular folk than the GOP candidates who all seem to think it is fair for the rich to not pay their fair share.

    Betcha Perry already does, color.
     
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    Hey, BO is in charge, isn't he? He promised, he campaigned, he said he would.
    He and the Dem Congress were too busy with other doings than worry about jobs, unless one counts the promised jobs the stimulus bill should have created. Now you want the Reps to come to the rescue? Have you seen the light? Are you admitting BO and the Dems can't do it?
    As for BOs hair getting gray...might have turned color while waiting for Buffett and the Kennedys to volunteer.
     
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    Typical liberal stupidity. According to you no job is better than a lower wage job. Furthermore, most of the new jobs in Texas are above national average in wage.
     
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    Perry will run on the economy and jobs.
     
  19. mertex

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    We already have all the minimum wage jobs we need. And our economy is already bad enough, we don't need Perry to muck it up any further.


    In a series of articles last year, The Economist magazine asserted that Texas had, "the highest proportion of people lacking health insurance of all 50 states, the third highest poverty rate, the second highest imprisonment rate, the highest teenage birth rate, the lowest voter turnout and the lowest portion of high school graduates."
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131048009
     
  20. Shangrila

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    Well, for the first part, Mertex hits a home run.

    As for HC, think about all the illegals making up a large portion of those 'lacking' HC.
    Yet they are being taken care of, and nicely so.
    Some of the county run hospitals, run down by illegals and their birth rate, have some rather fine statistics on providing superior care, as low as funding is. Among those, some very fine teaching Hospitals.
     
  21. mertex

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    Conservatives are in no position to call anyone stupid - considering all the "stupid candidates they keep coming up with they think are so great".

    I think your comprehension is amiss - his statement suggests the opposite - minimum wage jobs don't support families, so in many cases they are equivalent to "no job".
    Got a link to support that? Jobs tied to our natural resources have nothing to do with anything Perry has done.

    Texas has more people earning the federal minimum wage or less than any other state and is tied with Mississippi for the highest percentage of minimum-wage workers. New York follows Texas and Mississippi by three percentage points.
    Texas is also the deadliest state to work in and the one with the lowest workers' comp coverage.
    So a Rick Perry economy is one in which the unemployment rate is the same as in New York, but with the rate of pay falling steadily behind and many more people stuck at (or below) minimum wage and dying on the job.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/...s-Texas-miracle-is-built-on-minimum-wage-jobs


    It don't matter how much y'all like him, he ain't going to be in the WH.
     
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    please tell me why the Governor would not have an effect on employment in the oil and gas sector of the state?
     
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    at last count, since Rick Perry became Governor, Texas has increased its share of Fortune 500 companies hq'd here to the point that we have more than any other state, so all those corporate jobs and support jobs are miminum waged?

    how about all the doctors who are fleeing to Texas after the latest round of tort reform, they are also only employing minimum wage workers?
     
  24. mertex

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    Gee thanks, I think?

    The number of illegals considered to be uninsured is an unknown.

    FactCheck.org
    Twenty-one percent of the uninsured are immigrants, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. But that figure includes both those who are here legally and those who are not. The number of illegal immigrants who are included in the official statistics is unknown.

    But even so, the number is not that big. Even if the figure were to drop from 45M to 39M - it is still not a number that we can brag about.

    He told us that Pew's data indicate that 11.9 million illegal immigrants were in the United States in 2007. About 6.8 million of them did not have health insurance.

    Pew's model assumed that illegal immigrants are slightly undercounted by the Census Bureau, so the total number of uninsured in the country would be slightly higher than the official census number. The model supposes a total of 46.3 million uninsured, so illegal immigrants would represent close to 15 percent of those without insurance.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-those-without-health-insurance-about-46-mil/


    I'm not so sure about the nicely so, and, that is a state's decision. And illegals that have been in the US less than 5 years are not eligible for Medicaid (Fed law).

    State legislatures across the country are seeking to limit the costs to taxpayers of illegal immigration, including health care benefits.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-21-immigrant-healthcare_N.htm

    I wouldn't consider ER treatment as being taken care of nicely. Would you be satisfied to just use the ER for all your medical needs?

    Illegal immigrants can get emergency care through Medicaid, the federal-state program for the poor and people with disabilities. But they can't get non-emergency care unless they pay. They are ineligible for most other public benefits.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-21-immigrant-healthcare_N.htm
    Do you have a link to support your statement? Sometimes statements like these get made without real facts to support them, and people end up spreading them and believing them.

    illegal immigrants rely on a patchwork of federally funded community health centers, which charge little for basic services and don't seek proof of citizenship. For medicine, they often rely on free prescription samples or over-the-counter drugs.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-21-immigrant-healthcare_N.htm
     
  25. Shangrila

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    Not all illegals are documented needing HC, and often give false name and address, so I like to think the numbers are much higher.
    And illegals needn't be in country for any number of years to avail themselves to services.
    The care is above standard regardless, often to the detriment of the Hospitals.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp
     

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