Can Rick Perry defeat Barack Obama?

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Who would you currently support in a Perry vs Obama election?

  1. Rick Perry

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    32.9%
  2. Barack Obama

    29 vote(s)
    35.4%
  3. Other candidate

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    19.5%
  4. Wouldnt vote

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  1. Baseballboy

    Baseballboy New Member

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    In the last couple weeks Rick Perry has surged and left all other GOP candidates in the dust. Its little question whether he'll win the GOP nomination, but there's great question whether he can beat Barack Obama. Perrys perhaps the most charismatic politician since Bill Clinton, or perhaps even Ronald Reagan. Hes made out to be a far right radical, but when you hear the man speak you're tuned in and he truly seems like a strong leader who can bring us up from the depths we reside in into greatness.
    He has the best economic record of all candidates republican or Barack Obama. The question apart from the one asked earlier is whether Rick Perry is too far to the right to beat Barack Obama. The question being asked here is can Perry beat Obama, and who would you support in a race bettween the two? Please vote for the candidate you'd support currently and make a post talking about whether you believe Perry can beat Obama or not.
     
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    Rick Perry: I created lots of jobs in Texas!
    Obama: Yeah, low wage jobs that people can't survive on!

    Advantage Perry.
    The American people are too stupid to reason through arguments. If you have to defend against someone else's statement, you lose.

    And the countries demise accelerates.
     
  3. DookieMan

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    Rick Perry wouldn't help our country much. I would vote for a third party candidate or write in Ron Paul, simply to make a point. This will be my first election I will ever be able to vote in, but I refuse to ever vote for "the lesser of two evils".
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    In my opinion, anybody who ends up on the Republican ticket can beat Obama. I'll vote for Perry... but I'd vote for any of the conservative candidates. IMO, they're all better qualified than the sitting president.

    Anybody but Obama, baby. ;)
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    It's a tough choice to throw away your vote. I've done it... bet you won't do it many times. Sitting on the sidelines gets old quiick.
     
  6. Baseballboy

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    To make a point? That's foolish my friend. If you know someone can't win DON'T VOTE FOR EM, the only thing you'll do is help re-elect Obama by voteing for another politician with no chance. Say what you want about Perry but with his record there's no way in hell he's worse than Obama, so you should vote for the best viable candidate.
     
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    Would you rather have a low wage job or no job? If you can survive on what they get in China you can survive on a low wage american job, though there's many more financial obligations here than there..
     
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    We have to get this guy the Hell out, nobody will move on anything till he is, he has caused distrust and uncertainty,,mainly because he cant be trusted, and he himself is so uncertain....
    He is worse than a Lame Duck, because this guy will try anything, and going flat broke does not faze him. Perry will be the fresh air the entire country needs after Obama's stink, things I believe will move quickly.
    Obama was a bad mistake in just about every way, his type of thinking is not for this country, and coupled with his inexperience just made things a lot worse..
    Lets hope people have learned from this...
     
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    Two things I need to say about this.

    1. I don't think Rick Perry even COULD defeat Obama, whether I like him or not. He is far too much like Bush, not only in policies but in character. Whether you like him or not, another Bush cannot be elected so soon. I believe the only person who can defeat Obama needs to be the anti-Obama and anti-government, and forcefully get the true conservative message out there. Rick Perry doesn't seem that way to me, he just seems like another big government neocon.

    2. My focus isn't on getting Obama out. My focus is changing the nation, on returning to true small government principles. I don't think Rick Perry will do that for us.
     
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    Christians might vote for Perry. Don't place your hopes on those of another religion.

    Throwing Jesus Christ in my face doesn't work for me - but then, I can't vote in the US.
     
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    Rick Perry isn't Bush 2.0...

    1. Rick Perrys done a much better job than Bush in Texas, and he's more well spoken. The only reason people say that is because he's from Texas and they speak with the same dialect....

    2. He's about as pro small govorment fiscally as you can be. Hes not huge on the fed, he wants to cut a lot of taxes such as national income tax, and spending in general.. Socially yea he's big govorment, but all republicans are. They believe in makeing laws that concern social issues unlike dems who are pro fiscall big govorment and pro small social regulation. Except gun rights...
     
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    He's compelled to take ppositions according to his religious beliefs, but that doesn't mean He wouldn't let you practice yours if you lived here.
     
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    You think our nation is really dumb enough to elect another below average student conservative Republican Texas governor as president?

    Could be.

    “There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool me, you can’t get fooled again.”

    But then, theres another old saying ... You can fool some of the people all of the time ....
     
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    First of all, I don't care about how well someone speaks. Our society gets blinded by speaking abilities when choosing a president. Also, personal opinions completely aside, people will SEE the Bush in him because of his Texas accent.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, because I want to be informed as possible. But, I've just heard a lot about him focusing a lot on transportation, increased education funding, and raising taxes. Definitely not economically conservative things. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just saying what I know.

    A social big government scares me, and frankly I see a socially-controlling government to be just as harmful as an economically-controlling government. His executive mandate to force girls to take Gardasil is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. And I respect religions and all, I myself am Catholic, but he definitely seems to flaunt his religion way too much and use it to a political advantage.

    So it's okay to control what other people should do simply because it's HIS religion? I'm all for considering us a "Christian Nation", but people have completely perverted that term. It's supposed to mean a strong emphasis on tolerance, freedom, and low government, and a social character of a strong work ethic. Nowadays, it seems people take that term to make excuses to limit gay rights, make other religions less important in government, and so on and so forth.
     
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    dang it im wrong and youre clearly right. This hardvard intellectual we have in office is really working out well. Gas is down, stocks are way up, more people are working, and foreign competition like China and India are really lagging behind us.

    See what I wrote up there ^, none of thats true.
     
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    1. Youre pretty ignorant if you think his Texas accent is an indication of whether he'd make a good president or not.

    2. Take another look at his economic policies.

    3. I never said the govorments social issues should be decided by the bibles teachings. I mearly said that if his social stances are based apon his religeous beliefs that doesnt mean hes trying to force them onto you.

    The more simple the post, the more it resonates my friend.
     
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    I said nothing about his accent making him a worse potential president. As I also said, I don't even think speaking abilities matter for a president. I was simply saying, in response to the thread title "Can Rick Perry defeat Obama" that his accent is a disadvantage to him as it will remind regular, not as political voters of Bush. I think Ron Paul would make a great president, but I'm not blind to realize that his age will make it a little bit harder for him to get elected. Same exact concept.

    If you support him, you would be able to tell me some specific things. When I look for his economic policies, I see a lot of big government and crony capitalism. I really want to hear his good, conservative policies.

    What kinds of social issues do you have in mind?
     
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    Why is he? He could leave religion out of his election campaign completely.
     
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    Someone is gonna beat Obama, he's SO toast.
     
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    Perry will most likely get the fundamentalist vote; most people will see through his facade once the mainstream media publicizes some of his prior positions. I don't think most Americans are ready to have his religion jammed down their throats as of yet.
     
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    Hey , SMW , :) now the GOP knows how the Dems felt all these years ...

    But before the GOP wins in 2012 , first they got to run somebody that is " Presidential " and I just don't see Perry or Romney getting it done . they ain't even close to being ' bonafide ' .... :)

    maybe the Party of NO could prevail upon Rush Limbaugh to run for potus ,
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    We ARE the party of no when it comes to dealing with unpatriotic scumbags like Obama. Mainly no to his re-election. He's easily the worst president of the last 100 years.
     
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    Honestly though, it seems like all Obama has done is increase the spending efforts of Bush. He is just Bush on steroids. If I were to choose one, the worst president in the last 100 years is Lyndon B. Johnson.
     
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    They ARE close, but Obama is still the worst. His jamming things down our throat is worse. Look at his essentially allowing the illegals not to be proscecuted after his Dream Act was defeated for example. Obamacare will hurt us more financially, with less benefits, than even Johnson's welfare creating.
     
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    Has anyone looked into Perry's spending record in Texas?
     

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