Can States choose to distribute electoral votes according to the popular vote?

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why is the violent right always accusing people on the left of being violent?

    the left quote Donald cause the violent right listens to him and thinks he is their Messiah

    and some of the Trump supporters have signed an NDA and can not disagree with Trump publicly
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    agree, republicans want a dictator like Trump... this is bad for America.. in 2020 we need to vote Dirty Donald out of office and say... your fired!
     
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    People participating in an election knowing the rules and lose then complain about the rules...... sad
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    can you imagine the outrage if Obama lost the popular vote but still won... I can

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    That's all fine and dandy. So suddenly you agree with Trump. That makes him your messiah right?
     
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    So were you upset in 2012?

    Obama won popular vote 51.1% but he received 61.7% of electors....
     
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    Trump was wrong in 2012, Obama did not lose the popular vote, Trump the stable genius was wrong again

    Obama got the most votes in 2008 and 2012... Trump got less votes in 2016 then Hillary, yet still won.... SAD!
     
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    Huh? Obama got more electoral college votes than he received in popular votes. Were you saying it was unfair then?
     
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    so you disagree with Trump, does the Trump NDA's allow that?
     
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    Obama won the popular vote... something Trump will never be able to do
     
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    I havent read them. Nor do I care about them.


    I do know that if I was in his position, anyone within my administration would publically tow the line or be out.
     
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    so you wont say you disagree with Trump? got it....

    government employees work for the people, not Trump and should not be forced to sign NDA's to never disagree with Trump or his businesses publicly or be financially punished
     
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    Right I said that..... my question is were you upset when Obama got more electors than he won the popular vote by? He got 62 electors more than he should have
     
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    No. Members of his administration work for him. We arent talking about civil service workers, we are talking political appointees.
     
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    The electoral college keeps us from tyranny which is exactly what the Democrats want.

    The Democrats are trying to avoid one man one vote. They are trying to make it so they control everything.
    Screwing up the electoral college centralized the power in New York City..


    And the uneducated rednecks have a better grasp of reality than the Harvard educated sociologist in New York city or San Fransisco
     
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    he got more votes from the American people, that is the way it should be, why do you think the person with more votes shoudl lose
     
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    He was smart enough to know the rules, know that he couldn't win CA or NY or IL,,, so he didn't campaign there. Should basketball players know in advance that making a low percentage shot will yield 3 points as opposed to 2? If the law was different, Trump would have campaigned in CA, NY and IL and he would have won the popular vote as well as the electoral college vote. The law being the law, he was smart enough to spend money where he had to and not spend money where he couldn't win. Is that so hard to understand?

    It's also the difference when you're spending a good deal of your own money as opposed to Soros bucks.
     
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    Questionable. The State vote is supposed to reflect the voters of the State. The popular vote effort would change the State's vote based on other States; thus, disenfranchising their own States voters.

    Since there are not enough states that have passed this there is probably no legal standing to protest it but if enough states do pass it then it will end up in court.
     
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    Easy, the system is set up to protect minority states. Five counties in the country do not get to decide who is President.
     
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    It depends on the recipe they read and internalized. Nowhere in the constitution is the national popular vote given value. The Federal papers explain clearly why a national popular vote would sink the country and was avoided by the founders.

    Since their votes aren't going to be counted under the new regime to undermine the electoral college, people in the states that opted to give their voter's rights away should stay home.
     
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    huh, Obama got more American voters votes then all the other candidates... that is why he won

    trump got less American voters votes and still one, guess a womens vote is worth less then a man's vote...
     
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    any employee paid by America tax dollars is an employee of the American people and should not be signing a Trump NDA to never say anything negative about Trump, his family or his businesses ever, even after they leave office... Trump wants to sue people for telling the truth about what happened in his administration, his family and his businesses... did he make this latest wife sign a NDA too, what about his children?
     
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    Trump got millions less American voters votes then Hillary, yet still won.. Sad!
     
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    He knew the law and, unlike Hillary, had 2 neurons to rub together. He would have beaten Hillary if the law was different and he campaigned in the handful of states with a high volume of parasitic voters. The law was the law and he campaign where he campaigned and all the temper tantrums you clowns throw aren't going to change centuries old laws.
     
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    Why would all 50 states even think about doing that?
     
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