Can you tell your child that he/she probably would have been murdered by their parents' will?

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  1. pitbull

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    Suppose you're a parent who wanted to abort their child.
    But the child survived and is now an adult.
    Are you able to tell him/her the gross truth or would you rather keep quiet?
     
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    I was told I was born on the freeway. (Where many other accidents happen!)
     
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    You're a lucky guy, but that's another story.

    This thread is about what it does to you when your own parents tell you that they were once your deadly enemies. :(
     
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    The scenario is unrealistic. There is no chance a pregnant mother would choose to carry full term just to avoid taking a trip if she wanted an abortion.

    Contemplating an abortion does not make them an enemy. They are just humans making tough decisions.
     
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    It may not make sense to a child unless that child is old enough to have experienced the life situations where contemplating an abortion is necessitated. It would not be the fault of the mother for considering having one, and it wouldn't be the fault of the child if they didn't have the life experiences necessary to give it context.
     
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    I would tell them once they were an adult I think. I have told my mom before that I would rather her have aborted me than have had me if I would have been a burden. Not in one of those childish tantrum ways, but in a discussion about the abortion issue.
     
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    depends
     
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    If you cannot tell them you're a damn coward
     
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    The 'child' does not exist until the baby is delivered. Until that happens it's a growth, a tumor in the mother.

    Are the so-called "Christians" now attacking people for even contemplating an abortion or what?

    The level of dickism among some people is amazing.
     
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    Lamo straw man
     
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    not all of us believe that way, I don't Like abortion, but I do support exceptions which should be between the Dr. and Patient
     
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    Good question, for which i have no answer, but I have a question instead:
    when you knew that your child will born with terrible birth defect and will have life full of pain and suffering, can you tell your child that you decided to give birth and have him suffer because you are afraid that the abortion will put you in the God's hell?
     
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    If hearing that as an adult causes a person to lose respect for their parents, then that adult has issues they need to deal with.

    I can't imagine caring one bit.
     
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    It depends on the specific circumstances but in general I don't see why not. I know someone who was born as a result of her mothers affair, which ultimately led to a divorce. When she was old enough, her mother told her what had happened and she said they were both happy to have been able to discuss it. It's ultimately down to the individuals alone, but as a rule, the truth is the best option, even if it is a difficult truth to acknowledge, share or hear.

    Incidentally, your use of the word "gross" feels very biased and inappropriate in the context of the question. Your opinion of it's "grossness" isn't relevant to how other people might address the situation.
     
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    The OP is an a hallucination scenario of an forced birther.
    If the fetus was aborted and survived to grow up, it was an induced birth, not an abortion.
     
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    Eh ... what if Hitler's mother aborted?
    Wouldn't you be happy?

    This is an absurd philosophical question without answer [we could answer the same about Virgin Mary ... so ...].

    But this underlines something about abortion: usually the matter is discussed from a male perspective and by men.
    It should discussed from a female perspective and overall [when not only] by women.
     
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    But they don't want abortion to be discussed from a woman's point of view. They don't want to even hear or it. Facts would destroy the pro-birther's opinions and view points.
    Some actual facts are, the fetus has 100% of the characteristics of a parasite in the woman. The fetus has no brain wave till 5 1/2 to six months. Lack of brain waves indicates death in born people. So their can't be any feelings, or much else in the way of brain activity in the fetus before then.
    Some pro-birther even believe the soul enter the egg at federalization. So they are against birth control. A single cell has a soul?
     
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    Every case is different, I would think. If the child - now an adult - has self esteem issues, it would be cowardly to not tell them they were almost aborted? To what end would that serve? On the other hand, if a parent is discussing the pros and cons of abortion in an adult discussion and they know their child is stable and engaged in facts not emotion, it would make sense to enter that point into the discussion.
     
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    The presence of the soul is not so relevant: the soul survives to the biological entity.
    So that the destiny of the biological entity doesn't affect the soul.
    [I cannot understand why "religious" individuals don't understand this].

    Anyway, to be pedant, the Bible says that it's the breath to indicate the presence of the vital force sent by God [or G-d if you prefer].
    So that ... it's after the birth that the soul enters a body.

    But this is theology.
     
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    Would being told that be better or worse then being told you were a mistake and ruined their life? Or living a life of abuse?
     
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    we all survive or not. People are more resilient than you think, and I am sure many who are survivors were not raised by the Birthmother
     
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    Agreed, except that I believe the exceptions should be between the pregnant person and themselves. If you don't like abortions nobody is saying you have to have one. Please return the favor.

    We're all going to burn in Hell forever because we just thought that having an abortion might be a reasonable alternative to having a child we neither want nor can afford to raise in any reasonable degree allowing him an enjoyable upbringing. This is the verdict of your infinitely loving and all merciful god so please allow us to be comfortable with it too.
     
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    agree with enough!
     
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    You are making this all about the parent when, in fact, this thread should be all about the child. Do they need to know? How will it help them in life? If there is no positive end coming out of telling them, why should they be told?
     
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    That is a discussion best left for the birth control lecture. .
     

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