Canadian transgender demands free assisted suicide because surgery went wrong

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  1. MuchAdo

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    Your lack of understanding related to child development is astounding. It’s also clear that you are not actually reading what I am saying because you keep saying I have said things that I haven’t actually said.

    Gender identity develops in stages in children. At age two children become aware of of the physical differences between boys and girls. Prior to age three, most children can easily say they are either a boy or a girl. By age four most children have a stable sense of their gender identity. It’s not about identifying as ‘transgender’ at age four, it’s about not having a clear sense of gender identity or having the internal sense you are different than your biological sex. If you have spoken to transgender adults about their childhood, many will describe the feelings around not feeling they are a ‘girl’ or a ‘boy’, a sense they are different and so on. At age four, a child doesn’t decide they are transgender, children develop a clearer view of themselves and their gender over time. You twisted my words into something that I didn’t say.

    As children grow, they learn gender role behaviour and cross-gender preferences and play are a normal part of gender development in all children.

    Children express their gender identity in many different ways — choice of toys, games, sports; clothing and hairstyle; wanting a particular nickname; through social behaviour; through physical behaviour; through non-verbal actions; through social relationships.

    As a child develops, they develop the internal sense of being a boy, being a girl and this gender identity is something that cannot be changed.

    As a medical professional I do not condone the mutilation of children in any way so stop posting things that aren’t true. I believe if a child has the internal sense of being a different gender, they should be allowed to express and explore that and to force a child into being something they don’t want to be is child abuse. I believe a great amount of time and care should be taken with children and the guidelines should be followed in terms of puberty blockers, hormone treatment, and surgery for adults. Not all transgenders choose biological treatment. It’s up to the individual to choose how they express themselves and what medical measures they take.

    I have never said children are independent, again making things up about me. Why do you think guidelines exist — so adults can help children, not so children can do what they want. The guidelines are very sensible — https://www.wpath.org/media/cms/Documents/SOC v7/SOC V7_English2012.pdf?_t=1613669341

    It’s really unfortunate that you don’t go and read the guidelines to get some understanding of the truth rather than believing the cherry-picked tripe posted by those who are intolerant of the fact transgender people exist.
     
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    I couldn’t believe he actually used Thailand as a GOOD or positive example of sex reassignment surgeries. Hahahaha. That’s like using the ME as an example of LGBT rights:)
     
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    2 kids and neither had a freakin clue what they were “attracted” to at 4. FOUR??? Guarantee if they’re thinking of that at that age, they’ve already been exposed to media or people telling them how to think.

    Just look at every Mom that’s SO proud of their Transgender child? Haven't found a mentally stable one in the bunch. They always exhibit some major warning signs that they’re more messed up than their kids they’re so desperate to screw up too. It’s very possible the extreme uptick in Trans children is just those with Munchausen syndrome by proxy finding another outlet. Since mental disease isn’t something to be shamed or hidden anymore people have more opportunities. Just a theory:)

    Also interesting that there’s a severe lack of LGBT identity in the 3rd world, because they have far bigger REAL problems to worry about.
     
  4. MuchAdo

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    What does sex trafficking and sexual exploitation of children actually have to do with transgenders. There is a huge population of ‘transgenders’ in Thailand. Transgenders are referred to as Kathoey in Thailand and the term transgender is rarely used in Thailand. The Buddhist religion actually accepts transgenders as their scriptures mention 3 genders - a man, a woman, and a Kathoey.

    The many Kathoey that live in Thailand are not just sex workers. Most live like other Thai people and work in varied professions.

    Nice attempt but why not actually look up how the Kathoey live and exist in Thailand and not equate them with sexual exploitation to make some misguided point.
     
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    It’s unfortunate that you just agreed with me and have no clue that you did. You don’t want to mutilate children? Then…hello? Earth to you? That’s my entire Fin point.

    you even spend half your post reiterating my observation that kids by age 4 are only aware of the most basic of gender identity aka boys have outies and girls have innies.

    Am I being too concise for you to understand? Are you only able to understand what I’m saying if it’s in book format? Or are you too busy trying to make your own book format to bother with what you are actually saying?

    im glad you’ve finally came out and specifically agreed with me we shouldn’t be in the business of kids having irreversible surgeries. You really really need to make your positions clearer however. Don’t like kids being mutilated? Maybe don’t post statistics about how great the adult success stories are. It makes you look like you have no idea there’s a difference between kids and adults and also that you think child mutilation is a great idea.
     
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    That crazy woman from the Boston hospital said children know what gender they are while still in the womb. Yes, that's how crazy this is.
     
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    There's a vast difference between taxpayer funded 'care' and taxpayer funded elective surgery.
    Personally I don't care if a man wants to become a woman or a woman wants to become a man or in fact if either want to be turned into a farmyard animal, but I do object to being told as a taxpayer that I'm going to pay for it.
     
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    The laws Thailand have had turned it into a pedo land. Not a good example.
     
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    Nothing to do with transgenders. Maybe its all the sick American pedos looking for a good time with children.
     
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    If you say so, but american government and countless others agree with me. Why defend the actions of Thailands dark market?
     
  11. MuchAdo

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    I'm not defending anything. You have no right to blame transgenders for the sexual exploitation of children. Why not blame the people looking to exploit children.
     
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    Thats what transgenders are doing. I believe them when they say "we are coming for your children". Why dont you?
     
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    I believe that's what's known as a generalization (lie)... Not all TGs are doing that, if any...

    Those that are are probably just owning the cons... and very successfully it appears...
     
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    You have any sources , quotes, of prominent trans denouncing the "we are coming for your children" statement?
     
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    You cherry pick from the miniscule number who are confused about their gender to propose it as an option for any adolescent who might have some insecurities. Anyway it is being promoted as such.
     
  16. MuchAdo

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    Because a few drag queens in a parade trolling total ***** does not represent the transgender community. That’s why. You do know a drag queen is not the same as a transgender person.
     
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    Are you quite finished with your misplaced outrage?

    Let’s go back to my first post where I didn’t actually mention children, I specifically referred to teenagers. You immediately kicked off with BS this and BS that. I just let you go on embarrassing yourself by misquoting me and saying I was referring to children when I never actually mentioned them initially.

    Then you continue with your unpleasant attitude and insults without adding any actual substance to the conversation. You have nothing to say. At least I’ve added some education to those who are actually interested in learning what the actual guidelines are. So stop with your superior attitude because you are merely an intolerant and unpleasant person full of hate.
     
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    Good one... the rare bit of humor is why we allow you on this website...
     
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    [QUOTE="Tipper101, post: 1074386642, member: 8397"]lol children are aware of their gender identity by 4 what a colossal pile of crap. No, no child out there knows they are transgender by 4. You mean to say they are aware of girls and boys and know girls have innies and boys have outies. Way to jump a million miles past that into wherever the hell you feel like.

    You post sources about adults and are trying to make the argument we should mutilate children if they tell us to. That is a clear giveaway you are incapable of knowing the difference between adult and child.

    Children are not independent and should not be treated that way. If they tell you they can take care of themselves and run away from home and you let them then you are a terrible parent.

    likewise if they tell you you should chop off their penis and you do that you are a freaking terrible god awful parent[/QUOTE]

    You've got a hellva lot to learn.
    Chop-chop.

    "lol children are aware of their gender identity by 4 what a colossal pile of crap. No, no child out there knows they are transgender by 4."
     
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    Do you have any quotes or sources of prominent trans and or drag queens denouncing those queens?
     
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    So no? Cant even find 1?
     
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    Brian Griffin, the original organizer of the NYC Drag March: “It’s all just words,” Griffin said. “It’s all presented to fulfill their worst stereotypes of us.”

    “An organizer for this year’s Drag March known as Hucklefaery Ken, who also performs in drag as Sister-Lotti Da, declined an interview request, similarly citing fears for his safety in light of the backlash over the video clip. But he said in an email that the “coming for your children” chant was a “bad joke that is being used to serve the interests of parasitic, predatory political propaganda and policy.””


    ““We won’t tolerate harm towards any child and advocate for the protection and encouragement of every child to be able to live their true, authentic lives free from fear and persecution,” Hucklefaery Ken said”


    “Karla Jay, the first female chair of New York’s Gay Liberation Front, told NBC News the “We’re coming for your children” chant was an attempt to mock criticism of the LGBTQ community. What this is about is a conniving subset of people who say they care about children’s welfare but who really care about marshaling outrage toward vulnerable scapegoats.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/nbc...march-elicits-outrage-activists-say-rcna91341
     
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    Those are all excuses for the behavior, zero condemnation. Zero.
     
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    There is nothing to be condemned or excused except the behaviour of intolerant people who make ignorant and baseless claims aimed at drag queens and transgenders. Do you honestly believe that drag queens are coming for your children? Do you have any evidence or is the mocking statement your proof?

    Again:

    ““We won’t tolerate harm towards any child and advocate for the protection and encouragement of every child to be able to live their true, authentic lives free from fear and persecution,” Hucklefaery Ken said”

    “Karla Jay, the first female chair of New York’s Gay Liberation Front, told NBC News the “We’re coming for your children” chant was an attempt to mock criticism of the LGBTQ community. What this is about is a conniving subset of people who say they care about children’s welfare but who really care about marshaling outrage toward vulnerable scapegoats.”
     
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    Yes, the behavior of the trans calling for our children is disgusting. We will have to agree to disagree, I don't think its appropriate.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Z2xbmZ61vSw

    I believe them when they say " we are coming for your children" .

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/nashvill...arents-seek-possession-trans-killers-writings

    A lawyer for the parents of Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale, who killed three adults and three elementary students at a Christian school in March, said at a hearing Thursday that the family owns the killer's manifesto.

    I believe them when they say we are coming for your children.
     
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