Cancer is finally cured in Canada but Big Pharma has no interest

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  1. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    What does this have to with republicans and capitalism?

    Wouldn't a business with THE cancer cure be able to make a fortune supplying it? If not, why not, and if so does this prove the capitalism model? People want something, so others will work to provide it, so they can get the things they want?
     
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    Well I'd ask the OP if he had any clue how long those prescription eye drops were in research and development before they were released? How many millions of dollars were pumped into that research with the high likelihood that they would be wrong and lose everything? How many times did it fail before they finally got it right? What would the opportunity cost be if that drug fails and all that time and money could have been spent on something else that actually did work?

    There's a damn good reason pharmaceuticals cost so much. All you people crying about the cost of drugs: Are you going to payback the tens or hundreds of millions of dollars if that company invests in a drug and it fails and they go bankrupt? I seriously doubt it.
     
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    "Weed" Sanjay Gupta.

    Excellent documentary.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Source please
     
  4. Johnny-C

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    Everyone should be somewhat curious about DCA.
     
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    Perhaps Mr. Steven Kelley will draw attention to this and other promising advances in medicine?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/elections-campaigns/421384-steve-d-kelly-has-interesting-platform.html

    Steven D. Kelley has an interesting platform.


    Steven D. Kelley:......."Yes, I am running for president. I am going to talk about it on air in one hour on Freedom of Joyce show, www.freedomslips.com Studio A (11am pst)

    Steven's Platform

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stev...the-United-states-of-America/1656420081237824

    Steven D Kelley for President of the United states of America
     
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    The video claims it takes about $100million to get this drug through testing and on the market.
    Our government spends 5 times that every single year just to fund Planned Parenthood.
    Perhaps many people will get closer to one day saying F government!
     
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    Those people are totally dedicated to profit, there's little humanity left in them. They became the opposite of the medicine's first principle. Those corporations shoul be cut in half, ending the monopoly and improving their quality ( two medium corps are better for us than one giant monopolizing control freak )
     
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    the problem is big pharma isn't in a capitalist competition... they are in a patent secured mockery of capitalism... if we allowed their patents to expire, instead of be extended decade after decade after decade, then they would have competition and it would drive costs down... but we don't do that... we allow communism in our capitalist society... sure its important they have a decade to recover costs, make tons of money to pay for new research, but after the gravy train is over, we should allow that medicine to be made by other companies and an insane price war begins...

    think of it this way... what if we allowed phone companies to act this way... you'd only have one phone company for each state or city... and the second you left that area, the phone carrier who had a patent on that area wouldn't allow your phone from across the street to work in its neighborhood... so your cellphone is a useless device unless you go to their neighborhood... why shouldn't that cellphone work worldwide... because someone has a patent on your zip code? thats not capitalism, thats communism...

    allow companies to reap the rewards of their innovation and inventions... but allow the patents to expire a decade later and let the free market work its mojo...

    capitalism allows competition, communism does not... we've written communism into our laws...
     
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    Extremely well said!!!!!

    Now I have a better idea of what this guy meant by this part of his platform.....

    https://www.facebook.com/Steven-D-K...ca-1656420081237824/timeline/?hc_location=ufi


     
  10. Darkbane

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    please stop reviving dead threads just to post ads for political candidates... thats getting annoying real quick... for multiple reasons... pretty sure it violates the rules of the board as well...

    P.S. this is actually a story from 2007... rehashed again in 2010 and again in 2012 it seems... and 2013... and now 2015...
     
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    The Philadelphia Chromosome: A Genetic Mystery, a Lethal Cancer, and the Improbable Invention of a Lifesaving Treatment
    by Jessica Wapner.
    (amazon has it)

    I strongly recommend this book. It changed cancer research. Almost all cancer research today is at the DNA level as a result of the discoveries written about in this book
    .
    This book was written by a lay person for lay people. I understood every word.
     
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    There are many different causes of cancer and each has its own epidemiology thus there is not any one cure. The drug is in the experimental phase and not a vetted as a empirical cure for cancer in general.
     
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    But he is the most interesting candidate for President that I have ran into so far!

    Do you happen to get serious commissions from Big Pharma Darkbane?

    Or has one of your children or grandchildren became a physician and have the completely convinced you of the rightness of the massive commissions that they earn from big Pharma companies?

    Or is it just that you like your own physician and feel that they like you so much that they would have informed you if anything significant had actually been discovered over this past decade or so.........… that wasn't necessarily high tech and almost certainly only available to somebody with a great medical insurance provider?!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But what about the article by Dr. Leo Rebello on how trace minerals could somehow or another dramatically improve human resistance to cancer and many other sicknesses?

    This sounds to me like a good theory that just happens to coincide with writings by Dr. Joel Wallach and several of the research physicians who studied The VAlley of Longevity in Ecuador and other places on the earth where the incidence of cancer and other diseases is low and longevity combined with health seems to be strangely high?

    http://www.healthwisdom.org/aidsminera.htm

     
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    at one time people thought the same about bacterial infections and virus's

    one just has to find a way to help the body fight off the cancer or target the cancer cell

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  16. DennisTate

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    Oh...… and if YOU..... would write something significant........ that really grabs my attention...… I would probably quote you...… much as I quoted ChristopherABrown here....... He is writing about my province Nova Scotia, in a manner that is pretty shocking to me!

    It doesn't directly relate to curing cancer....... but it does show how corruption alters what the MSM writes about and puts on prime time news shows. This is evidence that certain wealthy and powerful groups of people guided America toward the Civil War.......... and by implication, in our time period....... it is not shocking to imagine other groups of wealthy people promoting an opinion of our medical system that leaves us, the consumer of the MSM, with an opinion of our medical system that is unrealistically optimistic and trusting.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=299109&page=6&p=1065416851#post1065416851

    Our Lawful And Peaceful Revolution - Defense & Enforcement of the Constitution.

    .................................. Aha yes... I just looked back at your post #33 here..... now that was really good stuff..... and I couldn't resist quoting you on it........ after the search engine put this topic up at the bottom of my screen..... after I posted in another topic......… Your ultimate problem may be with politicalforum.com search engine?!
     
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    read the first message I posted that you liked... idiot... clearly I slamed the patent process and protection of drugs... so stop trying to be so dramatic about your revival of dead threads just to post advertisements for candidates...

    this is not an advertisement board....

    if you want to discuss a candidate, create a thread with his name...

    stop reviving dead threads and turning every response into "I like this guy, here is his link"...

    get off your high horse....
     
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    Two operative words in your post, could as opposed to will and theory as opposed to empirical fact. The study is worthy of research that may or may not yield positive results in humans.
     
  19. DennisTate

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    Pigs need lots of trace minerals and other than for Chimpanzees........ we humans have a physiology surprisingly similar to swine.

    http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1516-35982009001300019


     
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    Actually, for some nutritional reason or other, I read somewhere recently that almonds can be overdone; you might want to Google that.
     
  21. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I began a discussion yesterday.... posted part of it to my Facebook wall and got some amazing replies today:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/healt...nnot-survive-presence-high-levels-oxygen.html

    Cancer cells.....cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen







    ..."cancer cells are anaerobic (do not breathe oxygen)cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen, as found in an alkaline state." (Dr. Otto Warburg, written in 1924 to 1931) My wife's father was diagnosed with prostate cancer a few years ago.

    While he was still in Ecuador his physician advised him to begin to take baking soda and water as part of his improved nutritional back up to his treatment.

    Now that he is in Miami his physicians are SHOCKED that his blood test are showing essentially ZERO CANCER CELLS!

    My wife and I have both began to take baking soda and water on a regular basis.


    https://sites.google.com/site/ganodermareview/the-root-cause-of-cancer

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for that Merwen.....

    Here is an interesting reply that I just got back today to my facebook wall......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=444650&page=2&p=1065867495#post1065867495

    ...............

    Wow!!!!! May I quote you on this into that discussion? If so.... would you rather I use your full name or just your initials? Thank you immensely S.....!

     

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