Cancer Is Man Made

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  1. jmpet

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    Cancer Is Man Made

    "Cancers are primarily an environmental disease with 90-95% of cases due to lifestyle and environmental factors and 5-10% due to genetics. Common environmental factors leading to cancer death include: tobacco (25-30%), diet and obesity (30-35%), infections (15-20%), radiation, stress, lack of physical activity, environmental pollutants. These environmental factors cause abnormalities in the genetic material of cells."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer

    Cancer was virtually unknown 150 years ago before coal and oil. Today, you are statistically likely to get one form of cancer or another within your industrialized lifetime.

    I had thyroid cancer when I was 37- they removed my thyroid and I now take pills for the rest of my life to replace the effects my thyroid served in my body before it went cancerous. You are destined to encounter cancer directly or indirectly in your life.

    I grew up in The Bronx, which is cleaner than any other borough but still full of stale, used air and contaminants everywhere. I say this because I now live with my son in the country with fresh mountain air and fresh streams and forests full of ferns and trees far removed from Bronx air.

    I am pretty sure my son won't get cancer in his lifetime. If nothing else, all his cousins, aunts and uncles here in the mountains- all cancer free- are a testament.

    I point this out because I wonder how many country women get breast cancer- you know- the cancer that gets the most attention- versus how many city women get it.

    But overall, I am amazed that science has come to the clinical realization that cancer is man made.

    What are your thoughts on cancer?
     
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    Cancer is caused by a gene.....it is impossible for it to be man made because we do not have the technology to alter gene codes....

    But you are right...there are many thing in a person's enviroment that can activate a cancer gene...

    and not all cancers are caused by a person's lifestyle...


    Look at Andy Koffman.....he died of a completely naturally ocuring lung cancer...he did not smoke...he was in amazing shape and his health had never been better when the cancer formed..... Nothing about his lifestyle pointed towards him getting cancer....
     
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    My point is- the cancer gene is not activated unless it's in the right environment to be activated... and the modern world is the right environment! I have a non-smoking, city living relative dying from lung cancer as we speak... do the math.

    Where did Andy Kaufman move to, to do SNL every weekend? NYC: cancer central. The air is full of carcinogens- all those car and bus exhausts and so on... have you seen NYC at dawn?!!
     
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    I have heard that cancer sufferers were found in roman times now.(only a new finding) so now it would be considered to be a lifestyle disease as it has been found in the higher class.

    it would appear it is not a modern lifestyle issue but an issue of excess
     
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    Herby Active Member Past Donor

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    By far the number one reason that cancer wasn't much of a problem 150 years ago was the low life expectancy due to other causes of death. Have a look at that chart:

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    http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/cancerstats/mortality/age/

    Cancer mortality slowly starts to kick in at about 40 years of age. Life expectancy for a white newborn in the US 150 years ago was 38 (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005140.html). And even if somebody died due to cancer, it was often attributed to more generic terms like consumptiveness or simply old age.

    Don't get me wrong, a healthy lifestyle in the country may greatly reduce your cancer risk, but the comparison to 150 years ago is pretty useless. Our industrialized lifestyle has increased cancer risk mostly by eliminating other risks and prolonging our life.
     
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    Dat's why Granny gets her vaccinations...
    ;)
    Infection causes one in six new cancer cases: study
    8 May,`12 - Largely preventable or treatable infections with viruses, bacteria and parasites cause about two million new cancer cases and 1.5 million cancer deaths each year, said a study published Wednesday.
     
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    Having a parent who developed cancer at 37 means that the offspring have a greater chance of developing cancer.
    And cancer is not restricted to people who live in cities.
    Your wishful thinking has nothing to do with the reality of who gets cancer and why.
    If you're curious, you should do some research and discover what the cancer rates are between different demographic areas and groups.
     
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    I can't tell if the OP is serious or not. Really?
     
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    Who bumped my two year old thread?
     
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    NIH, Pharm Res.2008 September;25(9):2097–2116., Cancer is a Preventable Disease that Requires Major Lifestyle Changes
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    It's amazing that this continues in the world today. People willing to die for their pleasures, ignoring the warnings and suffering the consequences.
    Meanwhile, those in the medical and insurance industries, who recognize that cancer is best prevented through lifestyle, are still happy to make a living selling you useless treatments and drugs and say very little about prevention because it's bad for business.
    It's admirable for everyone to promote a cleaner existence, but there will always be people who do harmful things to their bodies for pleasure or necessity and people who will take advantage of others for profit.
     
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    Not only pollution, but increasing use of cell phones etc has also led to increase in the risk of cancer. It is because of things like this that you NEED govt regulation to help improve the quality of life of all citizens yet conservatives today throw a fit any time there is even mention of government making an effort to combat it. Having traveled to every continent in the world, it amazes me sometimes how the conservatives in the US fight against things that are almost taken as fact in most other parts of the world. Yes govt should not be in every part of our lives but without the government, individuals will always think of themselves and never think about the externalities.
     
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    Unnecessary salt in the diet can increase cancer risk...
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    Reducing salt 'would cut cancer'
    22 July 2012 - Salt is in many foods, such as bread.
     
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    That's not exactly true. Lots of our technology alters genetic codes, just not the way we want, or when we want to, or in any way that's under our control, or in a productive fashion.

    Pretty much all we can do at this point is give someone cancer.
     
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    I think it more cause by repetitive damage, IE like when people continue to smoke even though they have a really bad cough, you have to let the body heal

    genetics plays a huge part in this obviously, probably the biggest part of all, I do not agree with the 5-10% figure, I think it's much higher

    also obesity and stagnation play a role as both lower the bodies ability to heal itself, we all get cancer, just most of the time our body fight it off


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    Cancer is the end-result of an accumulation of tissue damage and inflammation. Lower your inflammation by modulating it, not suppressing it. Daily vitamin, fish oil, probiotic suppliement, vaccinations, exercise, fifteen minutes of sun exposure a day, socialization, healthy diet, and eight hours of rest! Also, our bodies LOVE predictability. Establish a routine and you will lower the amount of stress on your body (another good way to modulate inflammation). Also, keep your skin barrier healthy with aloe Vera gel or some kind of emollient in order to minimize the amount of pathogens (acne, fungi, etc.) that can enter through your exterior. Mouthwash everyday will help reduce microbial populations in your mouth and upper throat area. The reason I mention modulating your microbial populations is because the cursory medical research I've conducted shows that many chronic inflammatory disorders (IBS, for instance) are linked to bacterial infection.

    Edit: Almost forgot. Aspirin protocols are also an option, but that is probably not a good idea unless you are at increased risk for cancer. Something you should definitely discuss with your physician before trying.
     
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    the mortality rate from cancer is increasing because we've figured out ways to prevent us from being killed from many other ways. If we figure out the cure for cancer, the average human life expectancy will likely shoot up at least a decade.
     
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    Stay away from ferns-especially bracken; the spores can be carcinogenic. Really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracken#Poisoning
     
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    I heard an interesting theory proposed by a friend who is a physics PHD. His belief is that cancer appeared on the scene in the 1950's about the same time that plastic was beginning to be used everywhere in our society. Since plastic passes free ions into the air which are toxic, his belief is that our cancer stricken society is primarily victimized by hydrocarbons. So to him, Cancer is man made. It's an opinion, not a fact, but it has some logic to it.
     
  20. Ronald0

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    I see when you don't have a counter argument, you simply dislike the posts. What is it about my post that was disputable by any scientific evidence? Oh I forgot, you think laws should only be for the poor but the rich are saints so should not have to love by any rules.
     
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    Your last statement is false. The rest of your post is incoherent drivel. If you want me to respond to your earlier post, then compose yourself and try again.
     
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    That doesn't even come close to making sense.One's DNA and therefore human genome would
    be an excellent place to start in order to prepare for Cancer.It's no mystery that the cancers
    of one's parents do have a tendency to displace onto the offspring.
     
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    The English is perfectly clear. You planning to be a doctor right? Ask any doctor and he will confirm exactly what I said.
     
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    Besides your opening statement about cellphones and cancer, your entire post was nothing more than a partisan rant about government regulation and conservatives. That's why I disliked it.
     
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    Do you agree that cellphones and cancer are related? Does it not follow that some sort of regulation is needed to ensure those companies ensure that they maintain safety standards to prevent such a problem happening?

    the point of an argument is that if you don't agree with something, you provide a counter view of why that thing is wrong. Not resort to insults and lies.
     

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