Cancer Is Man Made

Zosiasmom · Jul 24, 2012

stu25 said: ↑

I have heard that cancer sufferers were found in roman times now.(only a new finding) so now it would be considered to be a lifestyle disease as it has been found in the higher class.

it would appear it is not a modern lifestyle issue but an issue of excess
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No offense, but link please. The ancient Romans burned their dead unlike the Egyptians.

Zosiasmom · Jul 24, 2012

Ethereal said: ↑

Besides your opening statement about cellphones and cancer, your entire post was nothing more than a partisan rant about government regulation and conservatives. That's why I disliked it.
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OT, but Johns Hopkins has some interesting research that they believe ties cancer in women (breast) with use of plastics. I'll send you the research if you like.

snakestretcher · Jul 24, 2012

Ronald0 said: ↑

Do you agree that cellphones and cancer are related? Does it not follow that some sort of regulation is needed to ensure those companies ensure that they maintain safety standards to prevent such a problem happening?

the point of an argument is that if you don't agree with something, you provide a counter view of why that thing is wrong. Not resort to insults and lies.
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There was some controversy when a lot of cell-phone masts were installed on the roof of the hospital lab I worked in. A couple of companies involved-Orange was one-came to a meeting to reassure us everything was safe. When I asked them why they had felt it necessary to shield the entire roof with lead sheet they went very quiet...

Ethereal · Jul 24, 2012

Ronald0 said: ↑

Do you agree that cellphones and cancer are related?
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I can't really speak to that because I haven't reviewed the literature in regards to cancer and cellphones, but I will stipulate, for the sake of argument, that they are "related" in some way.

Does it not follow that some sort of regulation is needed to ensure those companies ensure that they maintain safety standards to prevent such a problem happening?
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Not necessarily.

the point of an argument is that if you don't agree with something, you provide a counter view of why that thing is wrong. Not resort to insults and lies.
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I did not insult you and I did not lie. In fact, you lied about my views.

Ronald0 said: ↑

Oh I forgot, you think laws should only be for the poor but the rich are saints so should not have to love by any rules.
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Ethereal · Jul 24, 2012

Zosiasmom said: ↑

OT, but Johns Hopkins has some interesting research that they believe ties cancer in women (breast) with use of plastics. I'll send you the research if you like.
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You can post it. The thread topic is cancer!

Zosiasmom · Jul 24, 2012

Ethereal said: ↑

You can post it. The thread topic is cancer!

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I meant I would send it to you, but...here's some links and info:

Breast Cancer and The Estrogen Connection
by Suzanne Snedeker, PhD

The Estrogen Connection: Estrogen, a hormone made by a woman’s ovaries, has a role both in the normal development of breast tissue and in the development of breast cancer. Lifelong exposure to estrogen has been tied to an increased risk of breast cancer, and the body of evidence shows that estrogen exposure has a important role in determining breast cancer risk (Yager and Davidson, New England Journal of Medicine, 354(3):270-282, 2006).

Women with higher levels of estrogen in their blood have an increased risk of breast cancer (J. National Cancer Institute, 94(:606-616, 2002; Missmer et al., J. National Cancer Institute, 96(24):156-1865, 2004). Most breast tumors depend on estrogen for growth. There is also evidence that many risk factors for post-menopausal breast cancer are associated with increased exposure to estrogen (e.g. obesity, alcohol use, hormone therapies). Current use of oral contraceptive agents, and in utero exposure to a synthetic estrogen called diethylstilbestrol, have also been found to moderately increase breast cancer risk (Shantakumar et al., American Journal of Epidemiology, 165(10):1187-1198, 2007; Troisi et al., International Journal of Cancer, 121(2):356-60, 2007). Hence many breast cancer risk factors are linked to estrogen exposure. This is why there is concern that environmental chemicals that can mimic estrogen may also influence the risk of breast cancer.

The Biology: One of estrogen’s many roles is to signal cells to grow and divide (Yager and Davidson, New England Journal of Medicine, 354(3):270-282, 2006). This is important both in the normal development of the breast, but this also influences breast tumor development and the growth of most breast tumors. This process involves estrogen interacting with a receptor. Estrogen receptor-alpha provides a gateway for estrogen’s entry into the cell and for interaction with key genes involved in cell division. Estrogen-stimulated cell division may lead to increased mutations in DNA. Mutations in key genes that control a cell’s ability to grow, divide and die can lead to an increased cancer risk.

These changes take many years to occur. During this process, breast cells start to divide more and form hyperplasias. These hyperplastic cells acquire more estrogen receptors (Lee et al., Breast Cancer Research, 8(1):R6, 2005). Certain breast hyperplasias are thought to be precancerous. Estrogen can drive these precancerous breast cells to divide further and acquire additional mutations. Some hyperplasias progress to invasive breast tumors. Since over 75% of breast tumors have estrogen receptors (Li et al., J. Clinical Oncology, 21(1):28-34, 2003), estrogens can continue to be a signal for breast tumors to continue to grow. Therapeutic strategies to treat estrogen-dependent breast cancer have focused on preventing estrogen from interacting with its receptor (Yager and Davidson, New England Journal of Medicine, 354(3):270-282, 2006).
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http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/research/endocrine/videos/plastics.cfm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090326100714.htm

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=plastic-not-fantastic-with-bisphenol-a

waltky · Jun 7, 2013

Cancer old as mankind...

Neanderthal clues to cancer origins
6 June 2013 > A Neanderthal living 120,000 years ago had a cancer that is common today, according to a fossil study.

A fossilised Neanderthal rib found in a shallow cave at Krapina, Croatia, shows signs of a bone tumour. The discovery is the oldest evidence yet of a tumour in the human fossil record, say US scientists. The research, published in the journal PLOS One, gives clues to the complex history of cancer in humans.

Until now, the earliest known bone cancers have been identified in ancient Egyptian remains from about 1,000-4,000 years ago. "It's the oldest tumour found in the human fossil record," Dr David Frayer, the University of Kansas anthropologist who led the US team, told BBC News. "It shows that living in a relatively unpolluted environment doesn't necessarily protect you against cancer, even if you were a Neanderthal living 120,000 years ago."

Abnormal bone of the Neanderthal (above) compared with normal Neanderthal specimen (below)

Complex history

The fossil was uncovered from an important archaeological site that has yielded almost 900 ancient human bones, along with stone tools. The cancerous rib is an incomplete specimen, so the overall health impact of the tumour on the individual cannot be established. The tumour was diagnosed by a medical radiologist from X-rays and CT scans. Although efforts to extract ancient DNA from the Neanderthal fossil have proved unsuccessful, the researchers hope other fossils may shed light on cancer in prehistoric humans.

Commenting on the study, Kat Arney, science information manager at Cancer Research UK, said: "Some people think that cancer is only a modern disease, but there's evidence from fossils, bones and mummies that it's actually many thousands of years old. "So this discovery isn't entirely surprising, even though such finds are very rare, but it helps to shed light on the complex history of cancer in humans and our ancient relatives."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22780717
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DennisTate · Jul 12, 2014

jmpet said: ↑

My point is- the cancer gene is not activated unless it's in the right environment to be activated... and the modern world is the right environment! I have a non-smoking, city living relative dying from lung cancer as we speak... do the math.

Where did Andy Kaufman move to, to do SNL every weekend? NYC: cancer central. The air is full of carcinogens- all those car and bus exhausts and so on... have you seen NYC at dawn?!!
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One physician has a theory that the incidence of cancer could be greatly reduced if eighty or more trace minerals were added to fertilizer. The cost of doing so would be about one dollar per person per year.

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Peter Staheli also offers an agricultural methodology to overcome this current Trace Minerals Famine.
It is an easy way to lift us out of this trace minerals famine and return us to natural immunity and natural health. This all trace minerals fertilizer carries the exact proportions of trace minerals like sea water, which is the cradle of human life. One application on agricultural land and grazing land will last for 10 years. The cost to apply this all trace minerals fertilizer would be half of an application of, for example, Super Phosphate and without any dangerous effect. Through this new science we are able to restore our planting and grazing lands to full natural all trace minerals quality as it was before we ruined our planting and grazing land.

This all trace mineral means can be taken in at costs of about One Australian Dollar per person per yearand is easily available in any quantity of never ending supply.
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http://www.healthwisdom.org/aidsminera.htm

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