Candidate Calls Holocaust 'Blackest Lie In History'

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  1. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

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    I've got no ax to grind about this, but what one poster said about holocaust deniers being more holocaust minimizers has some truth in it.

    The plaque at Auschwitz, for instance, has been changed from stating that 4 million died there to 1.5 million.

    http://www.chgs.umn.edu/museum/memorials/auschBirkMem/

    Old plaque:

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    New plaque:

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    Other than that little tidbit, no comment.
     
  2. Really People?

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    The Holocaust is disturbing...

    Denier propaganda is not interesting at all...
     
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    I am reading your extremely silly post above, and finding that quite disturbing enough.
     
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    I doubt it.
     
  5. Leatherface

    Leatherface Banned

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    I agree, but don't you think it would be equally disturbing if the events of that time were used inaccurately in order to show a bad situation as far worse than it already was?

    I don't know, but if you sit and watch that Auschwitz vid for an hour, you are going to at least scratch your head, because the design does not appear to make sense. I'm not saying Jews weren't rounded up and put in camps.
     
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    And you believe that just because you saw it on some unsourced, unsubstantiated Neo-Nazi Youtube video?

    What, do you believe this crap too? I mean someone, somewhere on the internet said it so it must be true :lol:

    http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ

    http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47&Itemid=62
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Or the video's creator could be lying.
     
  8. Leatherface

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    Did you watch the video? I doubt it. If you did you wouldn't be so sure of what you think.
     
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    If you forcibly crowd people into a hostile environment without heat or sufficient food and work them to death... it doesn't matter if you gassed them or shot them or if they died of disease and malnutrition. That is a holocaust.

    50 million people died or disappeared during WW2.

    Ethnic cleansing doesn't have to mean outright murder.. We destroyed the Plains buffalo.. which indian life depended on.. That's genocide... as was the Great Removal under Andrew Jckson.

    If you take homes, farms and orchards, destroy water sources, deny human rights and civil rights... that too is ethnic clensing.
     
  10. Leatherface

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    Watch the film and judge for yourself, but don't assume anything without seeing it. You may be right, but maybe not.
     
  11. Leatherface

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    Actually, yes it does matter how they died. Tell the truth in toto otherwise all information is suspect.
     
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    Well, I'll take your word for it. Maybe you can kill close to 6 million people with drones.
     
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    By all means... tell the truth.. and read the Nuremberg laws.

    You take away property and citizenship, incarcerate them... reduce humans to NON citizen status and you quibble?
     
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    Who's "quibbling"? do you know how rampant typhus was at the end of the war? Do you know how little food there was anywhere in Germany? I do. I have family who lived through it.
     
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    Exactly what I was thinking.

    Makes sense that you wouldn't try to deceive people into taking a shower in a room with a crazy ass air lock door.
     
  16. Leatherface

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    Would it also fall in line with having ONE normal sized door, through which 2,000 people at a time walked in, filling the entire "gas chamber". Asphyxiating them via nerve gas, then drag out 2,000 corpses by hand through that very same average-sized door? Do you understand the logistics of such an inefficient cluster(*)(*)(*)(*)?
     
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    They weren't removed through the same doors. But you knew that, right?

    I just feel sorry for you, nothing more.
     
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    Really? Where was the exit? Show me.
     
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    Try reading some real sources about the Holocaust - random Youtube videos created by Stormfront members are not reliable sources.
     
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    I read plenty and been taught plenty my whole life. I've also looked at other sources and heard stories of life in Germany at that time by people who lived through it and who weren't members of the nazi party.
     
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    In chambers II and III, the killings took place in underground rooms, and the corpses were carried to the five ovens by an electrically operated lift.

    This is not obscure information.
    You are being willfully led to something, for whatever reason, you want to believe.
    I feel only pity.
     
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    Save your faux pity. Tell me what genius would design a "gas chamber" below the five ovens, that would require raising the corpses in order to burn them five at a time, and how 2,000 people per day could possibly be cremated with that system.

    I'll wait for your answer. I'd be more than happy to have someone actually tear apart the Auschwitz video. I have looked long and hard to find someone who can obliterate the contentions that were made, but no one has. Just the same old tired stuff that the video did a good job of calling in to question. Debunk it, please. I would love nothing more than to go back to just believing the old stories. Life is a lot easier that way.

    Maybe it would best to watch the film before commenting on it, if you have the courage. Then point me to where it's wrong and I'll do a mea culpa.
     
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    Yeah right.

    Somebody has to play the game of winning this round.

    They can't simply put down the scorecard and say, "yeah, this guy is really (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up.", b/c they aren't willing to realize that this isn't a game.
     
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    Trust me. My pity isn't faux.
    It's legitimate and profound.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/auschbirk.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dario_Gabbai

    Start with these two sources. They may help you.
    But I'm afraid they won't.
     
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    Go read the sources I linked about the earth being flat, unless you're willing to read all of it, then you can't tell me the earth is round. :lol:
     
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