Carson fibs about involvement with Mannekan

GOP front runner Ben Carson told a real whopper at the GOP debate last night. I was surprised to see no thread on it. If it were Clinton making such an outrageous falsehood, we'd have half a dozen threads going on it so far.

Heres the clip of the moderator asking Carson about his involvement with Mannetech, and Carson falsely asserts he "didn't have an involvement" with the company whatsoever, that it is "absolutely absurd to say that I had any kind of relationship with them," and and then falsely says that the claims are "total propaganda."

[video=youtube;D_Zb7nh_lK4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Zb7nh_lK4[/video]

As far as we can tell, Carson was not a paid employee or official endorser of the product. However, his claim suggests he has no ties to Mannatech whatsoever. In reality, he got paid to deliver speeches to Mannatech and appeared in promotional videos, and he consistently delivered glowing reviews of the nutritional supplements. As a world-renowned surgeon, Carson’s opinion on health issues carries weight, and Mannatech has used Carson’s endorsement to its advantage.

We rated Carson’s claim False.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/oct/28/fact-checking-republican-cnbc-debate/

Carson’s Troubling Connection
For ten years, he interacted with a medical-supplement maker accused of false advertising.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/396193/ben-carsons-troubling-connection-jim-geraghty

Ben Carson Has Had Ties to Dietary Supplement Firm That Faced Legal Challenge
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ben-car...nt-firm-that-faced-legal-challenge-1444057743

His declarations that “I didn’t have an involvement with them” and “absurd to say that I had any kind of relationship with them” are just bald-faced lies.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/426270/what-ben-carsons-mannatech-answer-tells-us-jim-geraghty

At debate, Ben Carson says he has no connection to Mannatech

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-ben-carson-says-he-has-no-connection-mannat/

The RW Christian darling has demonstrated he is not above breaking the 10 commandments when it is his political hide on the line. Maybe he figures that because God told him to run, it's OK to sin a little.

It was also interesting that the audience booed the moderator for pursuing this line of questioning to Carson. Perhaps they didn't like their front runner being put on the spot. But that's a different discussion.

 

If you like your Politi'fact', you can keep your Politi'fact'. PERIOD

 

Thanks. Can I keep the WSJ and National Review too? QUESTION MARK

 

Keep it safe and warm, maybe moist as well. I'll allow you to imagine where.

Let us know if Carson lies to the grieving parents of the dead killed by terrorists. That's 1000x more disturbing.

 

Did I bug ya? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to bug ya.

I just thought some people might be interested to know that God's chosen candidate isn't above a little lying sin, at least when it comes to his political self interest.

But how about the people who took Mannetech's bogus drugs? You're OK with lying to them?

 

The sort of people who go to these gop debates are Jerry Springer type audiences and Carson is a prime example of the adage that if you hang around stupid people, you dumb yourself down and become stupid.
He used to be a respectable guy and now he just comes across as pandering to the lowest common denominator among the far right.

 

Meh, not a big deal. No ambassadors died, like in the case of the candidate you'll be supporting.

 

We've seen conservatives enamored with Trump, that seems to be burning out. I expect we'll see Carson start flaming out before long when conservatives flock to the next SOTD (Savior Of The Day).

Looks like it's shaping up to be a repeat of '12:



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Of course. When the conservative front runner lies, its no big deal.

 

Depends. But there's a difference between faux outrage from the party of institutionalized lying, and genuine worrisome issues.

 

Oh I see. That is your explanation why its OK for God's chosen candidate to lie for his campaign.

Thanks for the clarification of your conservative values.

 

Ok so how exactly does that compare to Hillary lying to the families of the people that died in Benghazi. I will take Ben Carson's "glowing reviews" and "speeches" over Hillary's constantly lying all the time. No one here is under the illusion that any candidate is perfect. What we can do is weigh the pros and cons of each of them and right now most people feel that Carson's pros far outweigh his cons.

If the best you have is that he liked a product from a company and gave speeches at their company picnics you guys are really digging at the bottom of the barrel.

 

Seems to be a lot of that going around lately. I can't wait for the LW MSM to declare this Carson's best week ever!

 

The question was inappropriate, but Carson's answer was false. He was associated with that company. He was paid to personally endorse their products. That is being associated with the company. But the attack nature of the question was totally out of line. A person who is paid to endorse GM cars is not responsible for the ignition problems, so the assertion of the questioner is outrageous and totally deceptive.

This won't hurt Carson. 10s of millions of people hate the FDA for trying to outlaw people having any choice in their own healthcare and not taking everything the mega billion dollar drug industry demands. The FDA works for drug companies

 

Where in the OP does it say anything about Clinton?

And why are you comparing it? Is relativism your moral code?

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So why was asking him about it inappropriate?

 

It bugs me. But it only bugs me in the aforementioned ratio.

 

Oh, shucks, let's just print the pertinent part of that rating (False) and note that none of those who complained about the OP even bothered to refute it. Conclusion - The False rating is True:

 

That only works for lying white whures.

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Same reason Bush was compared to clinton over 9/11. I know, it's only ok for y'all, but you could at least try to have decency.

 

Because the questioner falsely declared a fact in a negative context, that he was involved in illegal actions by a company - then expanded it to asserting that Carson even being allowed to run for president should be questioned.

A legitimate (though trivial) question would been "Were you aware of violations of law by the company Mannetech while you were speaking on behalf of their products for a fee?"

Not the question asked and certainly not that the assertion of the questioner calls into question whether he was properly vetted to be a candidate and not disqualified because of what the questioner claimed.

I keep waiting for any candidate to respond "since your question is so outright false, doesn't this call into question whether you should have been hired by your network in the first place and why shouldn't your employment be terminated for lying to millions of people in a presidential debate?"

 

More moral relativism? If others did it its ok for you to do it? If you believe Clinton told a lie its OK for Carson to lie?

 

Indeed. The repubs have spent the past 7 years manufacturing faux outrages and lying through their teeth. Now the clown car contingent running for potus can only trade puerile insults because they have no clue how to actually deal with those worrisome issues. They spent the first 4 years wallowing in their hysterical birther outrages, and lost in a landslide in 2012. Now they got two airheads like Trump and Carson at the top of the heap, who spout nothing but gibberish. It's not looking good for you people in 2016, and you only have yourselves to blame.
A smart party would come together and develop a solid platform. The cons come together to froth at the mouth about all the deadbeats, commies, foreigners and homos and how everything is all their fault. Then they reminisce about a fake Hollywood version of the good ole days. They live in a reactionary delusion that puts them profoundly on the wrong side of history.

 

Did you forget what you posted.. You included her in the topic and then complain when people mention her?

 

The moderator didn't declare that Carson was involved in the illegal activity, but that Carson continued to make appearances on behalf of the company after it was. Is that false?

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Yes I did, fair point. Though I didn't attempt to compare Carson's lie with any of those attributed to Clinton, but instead compared the reaction on the board, it opened the door, I admit.

 

God's chosen candidate? When did this become about the Messiah? He lied the entire time he ran(both times) and continues to lie as President.

So why is it okay for him to be so full of (*)(*)(*)(*)?

 

Apparently. Hey I'm just going off a page in the liberal playbook. Don't hate.

 

I referred to it in an earlier post on another Carson thread, but Evangelicals think Carson walks on water despite the fact that he only entered the race for the free publicity to sell his books.