Catholics No Longer Have a Duty to Obey this Government

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Blackrook, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    I am sure you guys will be just as quick to defend muslims if they are asked to feed their non muslim employees non halal food in their cafeteria?
     
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    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    Hallelujah and amen.
     
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    And if they do, you are forced to supply it.

    When it comes down to it, the left doesn't even respect the few lines of the first amendment. The only part of the constitution they pretend to respect.
     
  4. Awryly

    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    Since when was halal food a public health issue?
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    If you provide insurance... yes, that is true.
     
  6. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    This "religious" (or Catholic) problem with "birth control", is likely the BEST example of WHY Universal Healthcare is what American needs NOW.
     
  7. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    You're right a bad comparison, the notion I'm trying for is that it's easy to support a religions edicts vs the big bad government when it is a religion and/or a religious edict you agree with. The true test of your convictions is when a religion and/or religious edict you don't agree with is challenged by the government, its what you do then that tells whether you are consistent in your ideals or a self serving machiavellian nihilist.
     
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    Not true.

    An EMPLOYER (not a religion) IF it provides health insurance, will ALLOW employees to buy insurance that will provide birth control IF the emplyee wants it.

    The EMPLOYER is not paying for the policy, the employees are, out of their pay.


    FURTHER we MUST presume that Catholic workers will not use ANY of the birth control, all NON-Catholic workers will be the ones getting birth control.

    Since The Pill is cheaper than having a baby, the NON-Catholics will be subsidizing the Catholics and their large family insurance costs.
     
  9. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, PUH-LEASE!

    I was raised Catholic, was an altar boy, went to Catholic schools for a time and paid for it myself.

    I have observed the Catholic Church since the 1950s. And I will guarantee you, the numbers of Catholics who disobey this "unjust law" will be minuscule.

    Just like the VAST majority of Catholics COMPLETELY IGNORE the BS from the Catholic Hierarchy on sex, divorce, birth control and abortion RIGHT NOW! :lol:
     
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    Catholics want to stop abortion, well here is the answer. Dont have the kid in the first place.
     
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    And just to add, something, what about all the bishop sex scandels hmm? Espesally since they are almost all little boys who are violated. They ignored Gods law on that, not just the govs.
     
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    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. I assume Catholics might object to the notion of a Supreme Leader if it was Muslim.

    But not if it was Catholic.
     
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    No citizen ever had a duty to obey them. They have a duty to obey us. I'm so sick of hearing "authorities say". Illegitimate criminals acting as authorities never were authorities, they are servants.

    Better take it back, people.
     
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    Amen!!!!! :pray:

    The Obama Administration has overstepped is bounds on multiple fronts.
     
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    The Catholic church should have been shut down under RICO twenty years ago, all assets seized, and the higher-ups thrown in prison forever. Practicing Catholics should not be permitted to hold public offices.
     
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    Did you say that you are an attorney???
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've never even remotely heard any Catholic talk like that.
    What yer forgetting is that Catholics stick together.
    That is their strength.They aren't bullies but they are certainly NO
    toadies.
    Yer about as Catholic as a mouse is a Tiger.

    BTW Our Pope is a great Theologian.And Philosopher.Yes a german.
    The first German Pope.Where did you read of his being a Hitler youth.
    That is only partly factual.
     
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    After your little traipse thru Scofield heresy earlier today.. are you sure that you are a Catholic and an attorney?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is what Obama is up to.He is trying to treat or brooch the
    subject of Pregnancy as an Illness.That makes it's really easy
    to hoodwink the public into believing there should be a cure.
    Or at least some preventative maintenance.
    It is a great Lie.After all Obama can't go a day withoug telling a
    whopper { Big Lie }.It's what he does and who he is.A Liar
    and a welch.Can we all agree on that.The evidence is overwhelming.

    Obama had to find a way to convince Americans that PREGNANCY is
    an ILLNESS.Everything else follows.
    Obama cannot do what he did { Issue an Edict about contraceptives }
    w/o first establishing the redefintion of Pregnancy as an Illness.
    Everything else follows.
     
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    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    It is an illness if you don't want to be pregnant. Nine months of all-round unpleasantness to produce something you don't want.
     
  21. Margot

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    That's an absurd claim.. You and Obama both know that pregnancy isn't an illness, but it does require prenatal care and it can bring on some problems like hypertension, Gestational Diabetes , D&C procedure after a Miscarriage, Ectopic Pregnancy , Group B Strep Infection and Preeclampsia to name but a few.

    My niece just gave birth to a full term anencephalic baby.
     
  22. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    Well thanks for clearing me up on what a catholic is. I thought I knew what with my mother being a catholic school teacher for most of my childhood, and more recently a missionary to Asia for the church, and myself having notions of going into seminary (that celibacy was the deal breaker) after some college.

    As for the Pope yeah it is somewhat unfair to paint him a hitler youth, but IMO they could of skipped that generation of Germans for Pope consideration and I would not of lost any sleep. John Paul was the greatest Pope in modern history, and I entirely support the speeding up of his canonization. Pope Benedict just does not seem as warm a person as John Paul.

    And if you've never heard catholics talk like me clearly you have not hung with Irish catholics when the drink is flowing.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since when is Pregnancy an Illness.Women 40 years ago thought it
    was a great event and expectation.If one doesn't like being Pregnant
    since when does that make it an Illness.Because the Liar Obama says
    so.Since those in the business of squelching Pregnancy { Planned Parenhood}
    say so.This is such a sick logic.
    And that is Obama's strength.The real illness is those who follow
    the babble of his idiocy.
    As if Life is merely a Pac Man game.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now I know yer a posing liar.Irish Catholic don't dis their church.
    MY Proof.Show me an Irishman who disses his fellow irish.
    They may say things after too many pints,but they are as tight
    a community as a concert floor drum.
     
  25. Blackrook

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    I am Irish too, and if we were drinking together I would punch you in the jaw for your nasty attack on our Pope. He did not have a choice about joining the Hitler Youth. If had refused, they would have taken him to a concentration camp along with his entire family.
     

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