Caucasus votes for Putin´s party/Chechnya- 99.5%

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  1. litwin

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    any logical explanation?
    "As pointed out by the media, the result of United Russia, which in the whole country until nedotyagivaet to 50% , can still improve after the counting of votes in the North Caucasus and the Volga region in the part that traditionally support the authorities. Most of the party in power seems to be delighted with Chechnya, where it is already gaining 99.5% of the votes of 99.51% on the lists.

    According to the President Ramzan Kadyrov, "the voters with their families went to vote that day was a real treat." A Commissioner for Human Rights in Chechnya Nurdi Nukhazhiyev "Interfax" that human rights organizations, members of his staff, and members of the Public Chamber of the Republic were monitoring polling stations and no significant violations were found.

    Not so "absolute", but no less spectacular success of "United Russia" has in Dagestan and Karachaevo-Cherkessia (91.4% and 90.8% respectively). "http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsru.com%2Frussia%2F05dec2011%2Fkakvybirali.html
     
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    They always vote for who their clan leaders ordered to vote. Who else did you expect them to vote? Zhirinovski? And......I don't care about that.

    5 minutes lost.
     
  4. litwin

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    so all the 130 teips (clans) voted for Putin? 99.5%-doest look funny to you?
     
  5. raymondo

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    With KGB reduced to non comment , you can see even he is lost for words and severely embarrassed .
     
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    It certainly does. But else who do you expect them to vote? They don't have much of a choice.
     
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    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/12/bombshell-us-caught-meddling-in-russian.html

    What would Americans say if they found their polling stations and certain political parties entirely infiltrated by Chinese money, Chinese observers, and Chinese-backed candidates promoting China’s interests in an AMERICAN election? The answer ranges from incarceration, to trials featuring charges ranging from fraud, to sedition and even treason with sentences ranging from decades to life in prison, perhaps even death, as well as possible military action for what could easily be considered an act of war.
    Indeed, the attempted subversion of a foreign nation and/or meddling in its elections are acts of war; an act of war the United States government through its various “Non-Governmental Organizations” (NGOs) has been committing on and off for decades around the globe. In fact, the very “Arab Spring” is a geopolitical conflagration tipped off by this vast network of Western backed NGOs.
    The New York Times in its article, “U.S. Groups Helped Nurture Arab Uprisings,” clearly stated as much when it reported, “a number of the groups and individuals directly involved in the revolts and reforms sweeping the region, including the April 6 Youth Movement in Egypt, the Bahrain Center for Human Rights and grass-roots activists like Entsar Qadhi, a youth leader in Yemen, received training and financing from groups like the International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute and Freedom House, a nonprofit human rights organization based in Washington.”
    The Times would continue by explaining, “the Republican and Democratic institutes are loosely affiliated with the Republican and Democratic Parties. They were created by Congress and are financed through the National Endowment for Democracy, which was set up in 1983 to channel grants for promoting democracy in developing nations. The National Endowment receives about $100 million annually from Congress. Freedom House also gets the bulk of its money from the American government, mainly from the State Department.”
    These same NGOs have also just recently played a central role in Myanmar, blocking the construction of a mega-dam that would have begun the development of the nation’s rural areas, provided electricity for export and domestic use, and help irrigate surrounding agricultural land. These NGOs are currently creating a social divide in Thailand to subvert an 800-year-old independent political institution that has for centuries weathered Western encroachment. There is also documented evidence of these NGOs attempting to destabilize the government of Malaysia and reinstall IMF minion Anwar Ibrahim back into power.
    In Russia’s neighboring country and ally, Belarus, this network of US-funded NGOs have attempted to start a “Belarusian Spring” to overthrow leader Alexander Lukashenko, who has adamently opposed NATO’s creep toward its, and Russia’s borders. And now Russia itself has just rooted out a plot by these very same NGOs creeping in and around the nation’s political institutions, in an attempt to subvert and replace them.
    A D V E R T I S E M E N T

    Read full article and detailed research on the issue at Tony Cartalucci’s Land Destroyer Blog.

    US Meddling in Russia: In Their Own Words
    Tony Cartalucci
    Infowars.com
    December 5, 2011
    Before reading the following “interests” the United States government (with US tax money) is pursing within the sovereign Russian Federation, it may be instructive to know just who constitutes the National Endowment for Democracy, the umbrella organization that funds a literal army of global sedition. (NED’s funding for Russian NGOs is listed last).

    Video: Not everyone pretends US meddling in Russia is in the best interest of Russia, the US or the world.
    For a full description of NEDs Board of Directors, their affiliations and guiding ideologies of which they’ve articulated in signed documents available freely on the Internet from their official think-tank websites, please read: NED & Freedom House are run by Warmongering Imperialists.
    One may also ask, just how Americans would feel, if a similar effort was made to interfere in US politics, where leaders were “identified” and “supported” by foreign nations seeking to establish what they considered acceptable political institutions to govern the US as they saw fit.

    Read full article and detailed research on the issue at Tony Cartalucci’s Land Destroyer Blog.
     
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    Chus ,
    Of course America tries to interfere in Russian elections -- and probably everywhere else on the planet . But Russia's record is just as bad and probably many , many times worse because of the accompanying intimidation and violence
    But don't blame NGOs in Russia .
    They were all kicked out along with the kitchen sink a few years ago .
    The people who monitored in Russia were teams of independent and International observers with no known agenda that I have ever heard of , or even whispered about as a group .
    If you think American teams of CIA paid "helpers" were stuffing ballot boxes in Russian polling stations , you must have a very vivid imagination . Did they act before or after the Russian Govt. helpers who were stuffing the boxes in the other direction ?

    Incidentally NED is one of my favourite New Zealand white wines . Check it out .
     
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    No Chechen even remotely linked with the Emirate and its Freedom Fighters would have voted -- even under torture and death threats .
    Kadyrov simply made up this figure because , being the dolt he is , he thought it would please his adopted father , Putin .
    Kadyrov is probably the maddest and most vile leader on the planet -- another topic .Just be aware that this sad figure was a rebel commander at fifteen ,personally butchering Russian troops . Many of his days are split between personally involving himself in torture in the dungeons beneath his palace and walking Big Cats in the Palace gardens .
    Something like fiddling election figures would not occupy his mind for more than seconds .
     
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    20 minutes lost. Fail.
     
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    Excellent .
    KGB has admitted defeat on all fronts .
    He will have a problem today fitting in all his work with getting new orders to explain how things have gone so badly wrong .
     
  12. janpor

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    True,...

    Not to mention other Russians who are upset with all the money flowing to Chechenia. Kadyrov is spending huge amounts on football whilst other regions in Russia don't even have indoor-plumbing!
     
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    kadyrovtsy? how popular is Putin in Chechnya, a person who started "and won" the last Russian-Chechen war? then , do you think that its technically possible to get 99.5%?
     
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    Officially - very popular.
    Yep. Why not? It's tribal region, as I already said.
     
  15. Hugilanim

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    In the Caucasus respected strong leader.
    I was just pleased that they supported Putin.
    Incidentally, in Tsarist Russia was the division of the Peoples of the Caucasus, and they are very faithfully served the Russian tsar.
    And now it would be nice to create a military unit and to send a humanitarian mission, for example in Lithuania.
     
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    ( as an answer to , is 99.5% a possible figure ? )


    Lovely answers .
    They definitely win the prize for the most Bozo answers of the Year , award .
    What a pity the political prisoners plus those held in Kadyrov's torture chambers turned up too late to vote .
    The final figure could then have been 123% .
    You missed a trick there Ramzan !!
     
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    Obviously there are one or two regulars here who are feeling depressed and even suicidal . Their father figures have disappeared , too busy packing suitcases , apparently .
    I am not sure I give full credence to all of the report below, but I certainly would smile if it was fact .



    According to media outlets, Putin's closest pal , Medvedev , suddenly decided to go on a trip to the Czech Republic on 7-8 December to meet the Czech President Vaclav Klaus and Prime Minister Petr Necas.

    During this pointless and meaningless trip Medvedev will chat with Klaus about the "trade and economic and investment cooperation between the two countries" and the "promotion of projects in energy, transport, scientific and technical fields".

    Previously it was known about the possible escape of this sweet couple of the Putin-Medvedev from the country. According to this information, the government squadron looking after Putin has received an urgent command to keep the planes of Medvedev and Putin in constant readiness for departure. The destination is not specified.

    It has been also ordered to keep cargo space clear and ready to load with "special materials " apparently with stolen cash, gold and diamonds. Sources attribute this instruction with the unrest in downtown Moscow, which potentially in the next few days could grow and lead to a revolution.

    Meanwhile, former Prime Minister Kasyanov told the Moscow correspondent of Christian Science Monitor talked about the beginning of the end of the hated thievish FSB regime of Putin. According to him, Putin has virtually disappeared from public view:

    "Former Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov, co-leader of the liberal PARNAS, which was banned from taking part in elections, says that Putin has virtually disappeared from public view as the protests have spread.

    "Putin is not taking this as a lesson. He needs to move to engage with the opposition, seek dialogue and compromise, but he is not doing it", says Kasyanov, who was Putin's prime minister during his first term as president.

    "What has happened this week is the beginning of the end for the Putin regime. "

    Amen to that .
     
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    Who wants to jump the gun so.
    Do not forget about Putin's words "good money after bad" words and Surkov, "everything is under control."
     
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    Hugi ,
    As we say , " For god's sake man ..... "
    Surkov is the Kremlin spin doctor and ideologist . He is the guy who tells Putin what to say , why , and when .
    What else could he say ?
    He will be saying , "Everything is under control " to the very end . He is a slippery man and will then disappear into thin air --- possibly reappearing in his home country , Chechnya .
    More likely , sitting on a beach in Cuba smoking a 12 inch Havana .
     
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    Calm down do not never. Those who follow this rule, provides his long political life.
    Any threat should be taken seriously. Or then very sorry about this, if alive stay.
    I hope that Putin and the team prepared for this and make it right.
     
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    Officially what do you mean?

    have you worked with statistic anytime? 99.5% you can even not get 99.5% out of this " nation" [​IMG]
     
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    Question: How big was the percentage of egible voters that went voting in Chechnya?

    About 10% is illeterate -- Russian voting papers seemed quite difficult on TV.
     
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    That thing.
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    Judging by results of elections both Putin and Kadyrov are popular there. Remember: Caucasians are people of complete different mindset and culture. In a way they are similar to Arab and some Turk migrants in the EU. They respect strength. Strength = respect for them. That is one of the reasons they are not good in adopting. They believe ignoring rules, laws, traditions is "strength". You are strong = you are respected.

    Yeah, I have. What is the problem?

    What is the problem anyway? I told here already. Talks about "frauds" are pointless. EdRo results are quite close to opinion polls. So....I don't care, really.
     
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    And they need a strong guy like Putin, right?

    The idea Russians, Caucasians etc. need a "Strong leader" is an invention of Putin and forced in brains of Russian People.

    Not a "Strong" man but Freedom and Democracy need them.
     

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