CDC: Nearly 5,000 Meat Processing Workers Infected by COVID-19

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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just wear a N-95 Burka.
     
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    Likely 5000 of every kind of worker infected.
     
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    These little ****ers are so filled with jealousy and hate that they are actually wishing harm upon business owners
     
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    ... "do you get it finally?"

    Was the snarkiness necessary? I was civil with you. I asked for a link, and instead I get an insult. Why is that?

    If the N95s don't work, why are they the first choice of medical workers during this pandemic and previous outbreaks of the flu? Why were they preferred by those who volunteered to go to Arica in 2014 to help with the ebola outbreak? If they don't protect the patients as well as the doctors or nurses, why do they use them? It isn't logical.

    You got that information from somewhere, so why can't you provide a link from your source? Seems easy enough.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Involved how? Details, please.
     
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    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    The N-95 is a good product, and those who disagree are misinformed for whatever reason or motivation.
     
  7. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because 3M and others can build them to the same specs as medical rated masks without the check valves, they are actually built on the same lines as the medical masks, but are not sterilized, as such they cannot be labeled for medical use, however the CDC has issued a waiver allowing their use anyhow.

    The problem is the base N95 masks have been all bought up and now people are buying industrial N95 masks which have a check valve to make exhaling easier, when I was in Broward last month it seemed everyone was wearing a mask and more often then not they had check valves on them negating the purpose of wearing a mask.

    However knowing what a third world s-hole Broward is I brought along my 3M industrial respirator with violet filters, they are suitable for bio-hazard protection which is good because Broward is at best a bio-hazard area and became a COVID-19 hot spot.

    They are a bit uncomfortable, but just not having to smell people wearing way too much perfume makes it worthwhile, I had a guy at a store comment that I looked like I was ready to work a crime scene and must be well protected from Corona, he never realized the round thing on the front of the respirator is a check valve to prevent damage to the filters by exhaled breath and I was actually breathing unfiltered air right on him.

    But that's Broward where the level of ignorance is unmatched by anywhere else in the state though Jax and Orlando are catching up fast.
     
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    I work with a co-op that matches unneeded or non marketable farm products with organizations that can distribute them to people who need food, right now while we have more products then we need, we cannot get it distributed out due to a lack of trucking, so as the food banks go bare, our suppliers are dumping or plowing product back under.

    Locally we have been able to bypass the food banks by offering product at the farm or fields and people can come and take all they can carry away for free, but it's still not enough, they just plowed 250 acres of green beans under over in South Bay, milk is being dumped warm, broilers are breaking eggs by the thousands and on and on.

    Shutting everything down had a very nasty cascading effect, first there was a wholesale glut due to restaurants shutting down, so the wholesalers cut back on purchasing, that caused a farming glut, right at spring harvest, then just as stockpiles lowered, the meat industry started going off line, which now with restaurants reopening will produce a shortage in protean, the next crops are just being planted, so the next harvest will be in fall, producing a summer produce shortage, and all this combined will cause food prices to rise, maybe more than what some can afford.

    And that's if we don't get hit with any hurricanes.

    Then around the end of the year comes flu season and we can do it all over again and maybe try crashing the economy once again.

    Someone needs to take the doctor and Ms. Scarf and kick their butts out out of the White House back door and into the dumpster for coming up with this idiotic plan.
     
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    Workers getting sick (or just quitting because of the danger) are what is causing the shortages...plants not producing...trucking not being available etc.

    NONE of that is shut down (except meat plants BECAUSE of the thousands of infections...and only there temporarily to clean and safely restructure)

    The General shutdown order NEVER included them.
     
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    But the needless shutdown caused what has happened to them.
     
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    If you're referring to the general shutdown, it had ZERO effect on meat packing plants and the same for trucking.

    Can you explain otherwise? I mean in some way that makes sense with links and actual facts....
     
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    Totally incorrect, trucking is in a shutdown, too many deadhead loads that don't make starting the trucks up worth the money nor less the time.

    The crash began in 2019 and has only gotten worse with the shutdown..

    If you are too lazy too look it up for yourself and are too uninformnd to know, too bad for you, it's not my job to educate those who are not.
     
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    Thank you, Lesh, for your clear and exact rebuttal of the alt right alternate facts.

    The nay sayers cannot bring facts to the floor that inform the reader. It's their problem, not the literate public's.
     
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    You were supposed to provide links showing that Trucking companies were shut down or curtailed their efforts.

    Fail.

    Stores are full and everything from masks to furniture is being delivered to those staying home
     
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    Translation "I'm talking out my ass and of course can't back up my incoherent assertions"
     
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    No it is up to you to provide links to prove me incorrect, which you cannot do because it doesn't exist.

    In a debate if you counter a claim it is incumbent upon you to present facts proving the claim incorrect, not I.
     
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    You are incorrect, for Lesh is telling you true. We went masked to a furniture store today as well as a pick up delivery at a furniture store.

    Get being scared of the facts, my friend.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then back up that BS with some facts.
     
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    On what planet does that make sense?

    On THIS planet if you can't back up your claim...it's disregarded as false
     
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    I just gave you some facts. All you are doing is asserting. You have to back up your claims.
     
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    Nope if you disagree with what I stated it is incumbent on you to prove it to be incorrect or accept as factual.
     
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    Anywhere there is a debate, I have you ever watched a debate where the other side countered with show some facts?

    No you never have because that not how debating works, the correct counter argument is to state a countering fact.

    False, all you are proving is you cannot debate what I posted, because you lack the knowledge to counter my claim..
     
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    You are asserting without evidence. Sure, I can assert my disagreement, because you have not really proved anything. It is incumbent on your to offer support before I can rebut. Basic Debate 101
     
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    Sorry you lack the authority to tell me how I can debate something.

    By the way you have asserted nothing as of yet.
     
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    I have the authority to tell you that you are wrong, that your assertions are not facts, and that you don't like it is meaningless.
     

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