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Chechen War Lord Kadyrov, spit in mother Russia face 2 times, hate monument, beating

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    Chechen War Lord Kadyrov, spit in mother Russia face 2 times, hate monument, beating Russian MP in Kremlin.

    ok, moscow have lost 2 wars against bands of ‎ šubān(s) and forced to pay yearly reparation(Moscow has financed more than 90 percent of Chechnya’s budget)

    but this is a bit over the top, who still thinks that Putin is patriot and nationalist ?
    [video=youtube;LrlG1kG3sj8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrlG1kG3sj8[/video]

     
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    I'd be the last person to defend Kadyrov, but I'm sure that the monument itself should be considered as just that - a monument. We must learn to respect and use national history as a science to remember and avoid past mistakes. If we just see it as a source of enmity between nations - like, you know, you're a normal guy, but your great-great father killed my great-great father, so I'll hate you and kill all your family for that - we'll never be able to move further. If some part of Chechen people want to live in medieval - let them, but we should not lower ourselves to the same level.
     
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    Check it out>
    Два депутата от фракции «Единая Россия» подрались в Госдуме вечером 3 декабря.Как сообщает «Интерфакс», в потасовке принимали участие парламентарии Алексей Журавлев и Адам Делимханов. По словам пресс-секретаря Журавлева, драка произошла примерно в 17:45 в холле у лифтов 15-го этажа нового корпуса Госдумы.«После того как я спросил: „Что, Чечня не территория РФ?“ — он исподтишка нанес удар по голове кулаком, я начал защищаться», — рассказал Журавлев. Далее, по его словам, «у Адама Султановича выпал золотой пистолет — не знаю откуда,— и мы решили прекратить все действия».

    Журавлев рассказал «Коммерсанту», что Делимханов напал на него в ходе спора о некоторых служебных инициативах. В частности, Делимханова возмутил факт депутатского запроса Журавлева, в котором тот просил проверить законность открытия памятника чеченским женщинам из села Дади-Юрт, погибшим при сопротивлении русской армии во время Кавказской войны XIX века. Также чеченскому депутату не понравился твит Журавлева, в котором тот усомнился в законности подготовки спецназа Чечни бывшими сотрудниками группы «Альфа».
    http://lenta.ru/news/2013/12/03/fight/

    Kafka really can relax.

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    i don't think so, this just too crazy ... now i got your illustration...
     
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    what a Chechen legend has to do with an academical historiography ?
     
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    [video=youtube;m312agAM-RA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m312agAM-RA&app=desktop[/video]

    A conversation between a chief police officer from Shali and an investigator for particularly important cases from Investigative committee.
    To put it mildly, there is a very very slim possibility that the same dialogue between a chief police officer and an investigator from Investigative committee could ever happen in other Russian regions.
    ;)
     
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    Well, as far as I can check just by googling, Wiki refers to the story as a proven fact, and, if it's based on a written chronicles, I'm afraid it is as solid as we could get on events in half-civilized Caucasus highlands. If not trust the manuscripts, then we won't have half of our "academical historiography"
     
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    You're such a sweet optimist. I'm quite sure it happens all the time. The only difference is that in some regions Investigative committee's "roof" is stronger, then police
     
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    May I ask you what is the basis of your confidence that it happens all the time?
    And have you any rough idea about relationship between police and the investigative committee at all?
     
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    p.s.
    If you mean that policemen, even chief police officers (nachal’niki ROVD) constantly communicate with investigators from the investigative committee like that ^ - it is just no-where supported crap. ;)
     
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    and what has happened then with "a chief police officer and an investigator from Investigative committee"?

    - - - Updated - - -

    can you post is as a link?
     
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    manuscripts of the Tsarist army ...
     
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    There is a rumor going around that “chief police officer” resigned.
     
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    i am 100% minister today? who needs gay clubs/gay porno in Chechnya ? is rape gaysex/rape gayvideo ordinary part of their work?
     
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    Hahaha the interesting version.
     
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    Maybe we're just talking about different things.
    But if bunches of power (police, investigative committee, judges) are not in touch, then I simply don't see any explanation to such stuff as Bolotnaya process or cheif Bastrykin getting away with all the mad stuff, or some deputies of you-know-what-party still sitting in parliament rather then in jail. What is it, if not a "phonecall law", and how is it different from the phonecall you're referring two?
     
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    forget about Sauer´s video , do you understand what the monument is part of Chechen man-dominated narrative. which says : your women (Russian, Jewish, etc) suc% dic%s to anyone for bottle of vodka but you Ivan can not even rape our(brave virgins) women .so Ivan you are suc&. this monument represents the official ideology of kadyrov state
    ps 49 holy- brave - virgins story is a total BS
     
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    Yes we‘re.
    Yes it’s no secret that the “phone law” rules. But an investigator from the investigative committee has his own chief, who controls / screws him. ;)
    I just meant that there is a very slim possibility that any chief police officer communicate with investigators from the investigative committee like that. Is it clear? ;)
     
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    your video´s gay inset has changed meaning of this picture totally ,

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    De facto the Russian laws don’t work there but the sword law rules. And there were some more terrible episodes lately. The f-ing black-hole.
     
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    swedes ´d post everywhere names, addresses, t-numbers of those offenders everywhere
     
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    Good job. Respect.
     
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