Cheney Urged Bush To Bomb Syria In 2007

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    Cheney gettin' brave - now that he's outta office...
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    Powell says Cheney taking 'cheap shots' in book
    Aug 28,`11 WASHINGTON (AP) - Former Secretary of State Colin Powell on Sunday dismissed as "cheap shots" the criticism leveled at him and others in Vice President Dick Cheney's memoir.
     
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    Prove it.


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    Cheney urged Booooosh to bomb everyone. They were just trying to keep up with Slick Willie who all ready did a bombing # on Kadaffi 10 years prior.

    Kadafi lives like Cheney in a underground cave of massive tunnels and mazies. Both seem to be paranoid and delusional of their powers over other humans. But then again, a lot of simple fools buy into their dictatorship and fear.
     
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    I can't prove a negative.. The public has NEVER been given any proof that OBL did 9-11.. and I did explain to you Mohammed Atta's beef with the US.
     
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    Once again the premise in the thread title is an attempt to lie and deflect from the facts; no one recommended the bombing of Syria. It was bombing the nuclear reactor which, in the end, was bombed by the Israeli's saving us the trouble of having to explain to empty headed Liberals and the brain dead press why it is important to prevent tyrannical thug dictatorships from having nukes.

    In the end, we find that Cheney was right.

    The only sad part is that Israeli war planes could not reach the Iranian nuclear reactors and now we have another tyrannical regime developing nukes like North Korea; by the way, how is all that TALK working for us right now with both regimes?

    Yeah, it is getting is NADA because the naive idiot world of Liberalism would have us believe that one can reason with thugs, nut jobs, dictators and tyrants.

    You haven't read the book nor will you and the millions of other empty headed leftists in the world because that would take effort and require comprehending facts which would throw your ideology into a tailspin.

    Better for you and the others to parrot the idiot interpretations and selective portions of this book they regurgitate for individuals too lazy to read for themselves.
     
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    Once again, no one advocated BOMBING Syria. Why do you continue parroting this idiot talking point when the facts of your own post do not support such idiot claims?
     
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    The only people who can continue to claim that AQ had nothing to do with 9-11 are those wallowing in denial, idiots who swallow terrorist talking points and the brain dead.
     
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    Sort of like the WMDs in Iraq.....?

    Ah yes.. Saddam Hussein trucked them first to Sudan and then to Syria, rather than USE them.

    Cheney is a jerk....
     
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    From your own source:

    President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.

    In other words, AFTER the campaign began.

    Returning to the White House after a weekend at Camp David, the president said the bombing would not stop, unless the ruling Taliban "turn [bin Laden] over, turn his cohorts over, turn any hostages they hold over." He added, "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty". In Jalalabad, deputy prime minister Haji Abdul Kabir - the third most powerful figure in the ruling Taliban regime - told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US, but added: "we would be ready to hand him over to a third country".

    The offer came a day after the Taliban's supreme leader rebuffed Bush's "second chance" for the Islamic militia to surrender Bin Laden to the US.


    Are you somehow incapable of reading comprehension?

    Comparing this case to the Taliban and 9-11 is the realm of lunacy. But let’s pretend like you can make a rational argument, which you are incapable of, but let’s pretend. If Luis Posada Carriles is released to the despotic regime ruling over Cuba by force and who is known for crimes against their own people, do you really think he would receive a fair trial similar to what Bin Laden would have faced in our own country?

    In other words, do you think there is not a VAST difference between the US legal system and Cubas?

    First off, rogue nations led by brutal dictators should not be permitted by the civilized world to secretly develop nukes; that is just insane.

    Secondly, Israel didn’t have the right, they took the initiative do to the feckless and idiot behavior of Western nations who prefer handwringing to action.

    Thirdly the claim that Israel has loads of nukes is the realm of pure speculation and cannot be substantiated by any facts. But assuming Israeli’s have those nukes, how is this nation anything similar to rogue dictatorships who sponsor terrorism and the destruction of Israel?

    This claim is purely based on your closed minded irrational hatred fed by the fact that you do little research for yourself and merely parrot the idiot talking points of the left.

    I would ask you to provide even the slightest credible evidence to support this uniformed and offensive claim towards a decent American but am afraid I would only get more idiot talking points based on nothing more substantive than “because you and morons on the left say so.”

    Here’s a prediction for you; this book will sell millions unlike the idiot tomes from Pelosi and Kerry.
     
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    I guess The Project For A New American Century was a figment of everybody's imagination??...Lol.
     
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    LOLOLOL.. the PNAC had a plan to remake the ME .. it dovetails with Israel's CLEAN BREAK STRATEGY.
     
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    The individuals who attacked the US on 9-11 were INSPIRED by the Wahibbist religious obscurantist babblings of OBL of which the former were adherents. That's not the same as saying that the attacks were carried out by Al-Qaida which implies the existence of an organization with a centralized command structure, which is actually a fallacy. So objectively, it is correct to say that AQ had nothing to do with the attacks. So you are wrong AGAIN...Seems as though you cannot actually get anything right....Lol.
     
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    Wrong .. had nothing to do with Wahhabists.. OBL followed the teachings of Sayeed Qubt.
     
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    Because you say so; but alas, this is not how the REAL world works and it only works in the fantasy world of Liberals who naively also believe that terrorists, thugs, despots and dictators can be reasoned with.

    "Indeed, I believe that the evidence that already exists -- if you're ready to recognize the evidence, then you don't need to see any pieces of paper," he said in an interview with CNN. "But if you're not ready to recognize evidence, then, no matter how many reams of paper are presented to you, you will not recognize."

    http://articles.cnn.com/2001-10-02/...ss-of-amassing-information-bin-qaeda?_s=PM:US

    Spanish judge indicts bin Laden, 34 others in 9/11 attacks / Al Qaeda members in Madrid played key support role, he says

    http://articles.sfgate.com/2003-09-...d-murder-charges-al-qaeda-s-secretive-methods

    Bin Laden Claims Responsibility for 9/11

    Admitting for the first time that he ordered the Sept. 11 attacks, bin Laden said he did so because of injustices against the Lebanese and Palestinians by Israel and the United States.


    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137095,00.html

    9/11 panel: Al Qaeda planned to hijack 10 planes
    WORLD TRADE CENTER


    One member of the commission investigating the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks says "a number of urban myths about 9/11" will be dispelled on Thursday, the last scheduled hearing for the panel.

    One such myth is the widely held belief that the military was ready to carry out orders to shoot down civilian aircraft if necessary.

    "That is simply not true," said the commissioner. "They were not ready" for a number of reasons, suggesting, among other things, that there were legal issues and that properly armed aircraft were not ready.


    http://articles.cnn.com/2004-06-16/...orld-trade-center-hijacking?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS
     
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    I'm game ...So show me the State Department's evidence.. Mohammed Atta was an Egyptian in Hamburg.

     
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    In the scheme of things Margot rather a semantic point of contention.
     
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    The only authenticated Bin Laden interview.

    http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/...-supreme-leader-mullah-mohammed-omar?_s=PM:US

    http://www.911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html

    USAMA BIN LADEN: In the name of Allah (God), the most beneficent, the most merciful. Praise be to Allah, Who is the creator of the whole universe and Who made the Earth as an abode for peace, for the whole humankind. Allah is the Sustainer, who sent Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) for our guidance. I am thankful to the Ummat Group of Publications, which gave me the opportunity to convey my viewpoint to the people, particularly the valiant and momin (true Muslim) people of Pakistan who refused to believe the lies of the demon (Pakistani military dictator General Pervez Musharraf).

    I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act.

    Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.

    There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces.

    Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims.
     
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    I guess all these highly contentious points could have been clarified had the US brought him to trial like most nations who call themselves "civilized" would surely have done. But no, the US as usual, went in with all arms blazing and assassinated him.
     
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    No its NOT.. its a matter of accuracy..

    Read about Mohammed Atta's passions and fury against the West.
     
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    There you go again; pretending that Saddam didn't have them, wasn't desirous of having them and hadn't used them.



    I guess the evidence and interviews with Saddam and the facts have no bearing with you. You're more inclined to parrot idiot talking points based on nothing more than because you say so.

    Saddam stated that he was more in fear of Iran than he was the USA and for good reason; the previous feckless President did little or nothing to enforce UN resolutions. Therefore, he wanted to perpetuate the myth that he still had stockpiles and a willingness to use them.

    Saddam 'let world believe he had WMD to deter Iran from attacking
    SADDAM Hussein told American interrogators he let the world believe he had weapons of mass destruction because he worried about the need to deter an attack from Iran, newly declassified FBI documents show.

    He made the statement in an extraordinary series of more than 20 interviews conducted with him by the FBI which give a rare insight into the mind of the former dictator.


    http://news.scotsman.com/iraq/Saddam-39let-world-believe-he.5425943.jp

    Perhaps if you were more informed, you would have tuned into the interviews on 60 minutes of Saddam’s interrogator.

    Because you say so; there you have it folks, from the open minded intellectual left itself.

    Once again, the premise of this thread and title is a lie. What is it about the truth that leftists find so abhorrent?
     
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    Seems highly plausible Margot. Like I say, people claiming to act on the writings of somebody else is not the same as attributing culpability to the author. It's difficult for wingnuts to be able to differentiate between the two aspects.
     
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    Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    Once again, no one advocated BOMBING Syria. Why do you continue parroting this idiot talking point when the facts of your own post do not support such idiot claims?

    Once again we are treated with deflections and obfuscations instead of the FALSE premise of the thread.

    What does the Project for a New American Century have to do with the lack of facts in the thread premise?
     
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    Now the thread author wanders way from the thread topic and its totally false claim and premise.

    I think we're done here.
     
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    Lol...Please don't tell us you are actually SERIOUS?
     
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    You mean YOU are done?
    That much is clear.
     

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