Chic-fil-A Anti-gay?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Osiris Faction, Jul 19, 2012.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Don't imagine that your likely inability to recognize and encourage proper justice in this world, supports the myopic views you would embrace.
     
  2. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,013
    Likes Received:
    4,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nothing that would justify the special treatment for homosexuals you demand. it is INJUSTICE to implement such unconstitutional discrimination.
     
  3. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    No "demands" being made, just people fighting for equal rights.

    The only "INJUSTICE" is (in-effect) denying a group of American's EQUAL rights. And that is only going to be "unconstitutional", if it diminishes or denies the actual rights of a others. Defaulting to ensuring greater rights for ALL, will likely pass constitutional muster in our nation's courts over time. Same-sex marriage will in no way lead to the problems I've addressed above. If you think that it will (violate someone's actual liberties/freedoms), please show exactly how you think that will be the case.

    Otherwise, I'd say that it is some bias about or within you, which leads you to the conclusion you suggest.
     
  4. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,013
    Likes Received:
    4,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Here in America we give special rights to the married, unavailable to the unmarried. Special also in that they are limited to heterosexual couples, the only couples who procreate. Now if you also want to extend these special rights to homosexuals and NOT to any two consenting adults who desire them, youll need SOME justification for doing so. Otherwise it would be unconstitutional discrimination. None of you have ever put forth a rational justification for doing so. Every justification offered applies equally to any couple made up of any two consenting adults.
     
  5. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Of course. There is no reason that homosexual couples seeking marriage should be denied the same. Prove (unequivocally) that is not true... personally, I'm not interested in anything other than that. It's the only thing that might change my mind.

    Otherwise, I'll CONTINUE to fight and advocate for gay marriage.
     
  6. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,013
    Likes Received:
    4,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Repeatedly with most every quote from court cases Ive offered. Did you want me to post them again? Same reason you cant marry your bofriend in 44 states. Same reason marriage has been limited to a man and woman for 1000s of years. And YOU need a reason to include them if your not going to make marriage available to any two consenting adults. .
     
  7. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    You are talking about the past; trends going forward aren't likely to agree with the status quo.
     
  8. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,013
    Likes Received:
    4,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    About the past in the one single sentence of mine you chose to quote. I was talking about the present in the other sentences you didnt quote, but that precisely why you edited them out, so you could pretend you actually had a point to make. I certainly couldnt deny that no reason exists in the future world you have imagined.
     
  9. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    No, it is about the 'future'. You can be a part of it, or try to relegate yourself to what has passed. The laws are 'changing'... whether you accept that or not.

    Welcome to present reality, looking toward the future.
     
  10. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,013
    Likes Received:
    4,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Editing my post so you can pretend you have a point is getting old.
     
  11. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Ignore it or take a break then.

    I'm saying what I believe needs to be said. I suggest you do the same; you have the right to.
     
  12. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,013
    Likes Received:
    4,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah, you proclaim as unquestioned fact that

    and when challenged, yo try to convince everybody you were actually talking about the future you have imagined, where there is no reason. And you want me to prove this isnt true in the future you have imagined. What a joke.
     
  13. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    yes. I state what I believe and think as OPINION.. just as you do here. I what you say is TRUTH, so incontrovertible that is could NOT be challenged... then it would not be debatable one iota. But the FACT is that what YOU say or what most of us say here, is AT LEAST controversial.

    So, don't get up on your ugly HIGH HORSE, and pretend by your biased commentary... that you are ONLY stating fact. Like I said, you can disagree with what I say (fine), but don't think that stifles my commentary. And anyone on the Right should understand that well.

    Pay ATTENTION, and then you can make the proper claim: I am fighting for a particular future; and I am NOT the only one. Why that is NOT evident to you or why you LIE about the same makes me curious. I am doing what 99% of the people participating here do... we relate our OPINIONS.

    And don't EVEN try to shut down my freedom of speech; I'll always LAUGH at that; especially in a society where some on the Right LITERALLY promote LIES within their political strategy (and proudly so). At least from me, you get what I think or believe is true... based upon what I've learned or experienced. So yes, you can disagree... but don't try to tell me I should shut down MY point of view, and adopt YOUR view completely... just because YOU think your view is absolutely correct.

    You keep wedging-in one of the most IRRELEVANT aspects concerning traditional/gay-marriage... by suggesting that it is actually predicated upon procreation; when in reality that aspect is often no real factor at all. Of course, I could criticize YOU (as you do me)... but I promise you, that I will CONTINUE to share what I believe is true and reasonable. You aren't going to shut down my freedom of speech... the First Amendment applies to me too (not just you).

    Your credibility with me isn't so great either; even so, rather than spending your time criticizing and discriminating against homosexual people... at some point you might consider being concerned about the basic rights of ALL Americans... rather than that horribly narrow view you believe is so very justified (when you are promoting nothing but discrimination and oppression... IMO). And don't be shocked/offended that I don't trust the things you say here, you just can't be; after the way we have gone back and forth 1000+ times... it really can't be possible for you to expect me to view you as being credible.

    I just wonder why you and others became so biased against homosexual people. I wish I could just see you say something in an openhearted manner and explain your prejudices 'honestly'; but I'm virtually certain that is too much to expect.
     
  14. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,013
    Likes Received:
    4,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Right, you wanted me to prove your opinion of the future wasnt true, Whatever


    "LIE"????? Care to quote the lie dancing boy.
     
  15. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    If you aren't looking forward, it isn't so difficult to see that your view is likely too narrow.

    I think the meaning of whatever it was you said, was untruthful.

    Still, you can try to convince me, if you want.
     
  16. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,013
    Likes Received:
    4,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I SAID QUOTE the lie! And we can all see that you cannot. Your real good a throwing around baseless accusations, but dont have the nads to confront any challenge to your BS. The level of character I have come to expect from gays.
     
  17. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Just carry on man; I'm not here to take your instructions.

    Speak for yourself; I know that some people agree with me.

    You believe they are "baseless"; we disagree about that.

    (see the above)

    I often wonder why people say the kinds of 'bigoted' things they do (such as you do above)?
     

Share This Page