Chick-Fil-A Sandwiches Become Political Symbol

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  1. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    You have a myopic view of the political system. There is a crotchful of civil libertarians and leftists who also kinda like having free speech protected. Jump out of the Hegelian Dialectic and see the world for the technicolor place it is.
     
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    Uh-huh. Right. So , the Brit tabloids can rewrite history with their semi-toothed, half-brained nonsense? The only people "freaking out" are the Obamites, who are seeing yet, another Liespeak Attck on Romney FAILING...while they display their GLARING DISREGARD FOR THE CONSTITUON with the government SUPPRESSION of Free Speech in CHicago...aka: "Obamaland"....
     
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    Here's why i think. Some pro-homo human rights organization just listed the top 100 anti-homo businesses. Pep boys, Auto Zone, some other big auto mart thing, etc. it's not that these companies are anti-homo. It's that they are silent on the matter. They do not contribute to homo causes, they do not talk pro-homo and they do not institute pro-homo company policies. So. Because they DON"T do these things, they are anti-homo. it's all a shake down. Jesse Jackson Style.
     
  4. The Real American Thinker

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    It's not specific at all. You smack all gays and liberals with the same paint brush, regardless of how many of us actually AGREE with YOU.

    Then you're opposing something that isn't happening.
     
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    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Try fifty years.
     
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    Well, I am pretty libertarian according to the credible Political Compass (based on the Nolan Chart).

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    Farrakhan is no ally of mine, and I believe people have a right to oppose gay marriage.

    Just like I have the right to think they are backwards for it.
     
  8. fiddlerdave

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    Its FINE in a free country to be "anti-homo".

    Its FINE in a free country to think gay marriage is a bad idea.

    Its WRONG in a free country to have it be ILLEGAL.
     
  9. The Real American Thinker

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    I agree, but we're going about it in all the wrong ways. We have a perfect opportunity to prove not just to our country and other minority groups, but also to the world, that we are a generation and a people that can resolve our issues and expand our freedom through peace and negotiation. We don't have to bully people into supporting us. We just have to work with them.

    All we're doing now is pissing people off, even people that would normally side with us. That doesn't help us at all, it hurts us. We've GOT to change how we handle things, or we're going to lose.
     
  10. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    You can get married in the United States, it is not illegal. You are referencing the rights transferred to heterosexual monogamous couples that are denied to homosexual couples, single people, polygamists, widows with children, etc.

    The additional rights are the problem and why government should not intervene in contract law or assign special tax benefits. When they do, it is always screwed up.
     
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    Exactly. It's called "Freedom",and I like it.
     
  12. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Seriously, what one thing in the last forty years has our government touch and not screwed up. We're incarcerating people for smoking pot too often, or doing magic mushrooms. We're incarcerating non-violent income tax evaders. We've given one group of people (monogamous married heterosexuals) rights that single people, homosexual people, widows with children, single parents, polygamists, etc don't have, thus pissing everyone off and turning the country into a madhouse.

    And these are the guys we want to fix it? They're the ones who screwed it all up to begin with. In trying to fix it they will just make it worse.

    Contract law should prevail.
     
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    I agree, just as much right as those that oppose Inter-Racial marriage, but just because they oppose it doesn't make it ok for them to deny them equal rights under the law, that is where they cross the line


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    Gays can marry by the same rules as everyone else. AS far as survivor benefits, etc., CIVIL UNIONS solve that problem,WITHOUT redefining marriage.
     
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    there are thousands of LEGALLY married same sex couples in this country, thus the definition of marriage is what it currently is, there are some that want to redefine it to be only between a Man and a Woman


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    It is an inalienable and natural right. They have the right to be married to whomever they wish. Just as you don't specifically have an amendment outlining that you are allowed to eat meat, there is not outlined right to marriage because our forefathers had greater faith in our character and intellect.

    Please don't make them wrong.

    The problem is not whether or not they should be allowed to marry--they should, it is the assignment of benefits that heterosexual, monogamous couples get that everyone else is excluded from.
     
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    But we don't solve the problem by bullying them into agreeing with us.
     
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    Unless I'm mistaken, some states (like North Carolina) forbade both marriage and civil unions.
     
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    No, they don't...and some states don't even recognize civil unions.
     
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    Fill me in. Conservatives boycott _________ over support by the CEO for Gay marriage.

    Fill the blanks for me.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    The issuance of licenses is disallowed, not a criminal offense as you won't have the opportunity to commit the crime of fraudulent documentation.

    That said, I meant...you can get married by a church, your friends, a drunk hobo. A religious marriage is all some people here in Brooklyn have or want. The government doesn't stop illegal polygamous religious marriages from taking place, they refuse to acknowledge or confer benefits like they would heterosexual and gay couples here. These marriages are upheld in family court under contract law.
     
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    Well, I don't know about specifically CEO support, but conservatives have boycotted JC Penney for using Ellen as a spokeswoman, Marvel and DC Comics for rebooting one classic hero as gay and finally getting around to marrying gay Canadian superhero Northstar and his longtime boyfriend Kyle (and showing their ignorance in failing to recognize the few other gay supers), etc.

    I think One Million Moms (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es about a new group every day.
     
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    Oh. Well, imo, government should just shut the hell up about it completely and let marriage be what (ironically) even the Bible says it should be: a personal, eternal commitment between two people and their god (or lack thereof, as the case may be).
     
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    EXACTLY! The negativity of a boycott can have adverse effects. I've spent a lot of money on clothes I would never have bought before from JCPennys because of how mean they were about Ellen.

    But...I'll say...I'm now starting to like JCPenny.
     
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    Oh, I love JC Penney. I buy all of my suits and sleep shorts there. Regular clothes, too. Great prices and GREAT fashion. I bought this fabulous J. Ferrar black vest. Only $25!
     

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