Christian Bakers Forced to Pay Nearly $137,000 for Refusing to Make Gay Wedding Cake Up the Ante in

Christian Bakers Forced to Pay Nearly $137,000 for Refusing to Make Gay Wedding Cake Up the Ante in Battle Against Oregon Govt

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“Aaron and Melissa, for all they’ve been through, have really never been given a day in court,” First Liberty attorney Jeremy Dys told TheBlaze during a sit-down interview in Nashville, Tennessee, this week. “We’re hoping to get them their day in court.”

Dys said that his hope is that the Kleins will be victorious in affirming American business owners’ rights to be “free to live their faith.”.......................

“We could totally just say we’re done and walk away and let it be,” Melissa Klein said. “We think about the next person in line that this could happen to. If we don’t fight this, we’re giving up on them.”

And that’s the goal, according to Dys: to ensure that business owners like the Kleins have the right to exercise their businesses in the way that they see fit.

“We’re dedicated to make sure that they get these right vindicated,” the attorney said. “The Constitution protects peoples’ beliefs. It doesn’t give a license to the government in Oregon to penalize people for exercising their beliefs.”
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Dys warned that the same punishment that befell the Kleins could be faced by anyone. At the moment, First Liberty Institute is considering its legal strategies moving forward, with Dys saying that he could see the case “very easily going to the Supreme Court.”

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I am pleased to see that the Kleins have retained counsel and are finally going to get their day in court.

It's quite disturbing that there Christians were forced to pay in excess of $137,000 to 2 lesbians for hurting their feelings. No day in court, nothing. The First Amendment is for all citizens and does not specify that Christians are not entitled to the protection of the 1A which is the case in Oregon

I hope that when the dust settles, not only are the Kleins vindicated but the lesbians should pay a fine and the homosexual activist who works at the job for the state of Oregon who imposed the fine, that he loses his job and must pay damages to the Kleins.

Denying people their 1st Amendment rights is not something to take lightly and the homosexual activists who spearheaded this should be used as an example to others that they will be dealt with if they try this tactic.

 

Their beef has always been with the state. Sic 'em.

The gaystapo opportunists are only exploiting a effed up law. That's the American way. That's the Trump way,

 

Islam truck driver refused to drive a truck because in the back of that truck was alcohol.
He was fired.
Federal judges ordered he get his job back + a few million in compensation for having his religious freedoms violated.

Muslim check-out clerk refused to ring up plastic covered items because under the plastic was pork.
She was fired.
Federal judges ordered she get her job back + a few million in compensation for having her religious freedoms violated.

Face the facts.

America is a country populated with a vast number of anti-Christian religious bigots.

When the party those bigots support is in power there will be persecution of Christians.

 

"Dys said that his hope is that the Kleins will be victorious in affirming American business owners’ rights to be “free to live their faith.”......................."

they are free to live their faith, just not discriminate, if you can't sell cakes without discriminating, don't sell cakes, simple

Face the facts.

America is a country populated with a vast number of pro-Christian religious bigots.

When the party those bigots support is in power there will be persecution of non-Christians.

stop trying to force your religion on others, if your faith says don't sell cakes... don't sell cakes

the only ironic thing is, many of these LGBT marriages are between two Christians, so who is attacking the Christians buying the cake?

Scilia is gone from the SC....

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Them days of "separate but equal" that ends up not being equal at all...
I guess people got raised up like that with their parents message that this is the way,

but they lost the legal battle decades ago.
Get over it already.

 

sadly, this will need to be taken to the SCOTUS where right now, 4 justices believe that choosing to live a gay lifestyle is akin to race or gender/sex and thus trumps the 1st Amendment.

The homosexual activist in Oregon who imposed the fine should be fired and pay sufficient damages to compnesate the Kleins for lost revenue as well as lost time having to defend themselves from his tyranny. The lesbians who brought forth this nonsense case should be forced to serve community service and also compensate the Kleins.

Attacks on the 1st Amendment should have severe consequences

 

Well first, you are wrong. I am amazed at how many "true Christians" sit over a breakfast of bacon and eggs because only the parts of Leviticus they don't like was repealed by Jesus' New Covenant, but the parts that don't affect their wants remain in full force and effect against others.

Secondly, even if Cjristians could not be gay, baking a cake doesn't make them gay, so there is no Biblical basis to refuse to do so (but there is a Biblical basis to not sit yourself in judgment over others).

 

It was more than selling cakes as they previously sold stuff to this couple. They didn't want to make a custom cake. The gay couple was free to buy any cake on the shelf without a problem.

 

I don't feel any sympathy for the Kleins. What they did was wrong and they have to pay the price for being so snobbish.

 

Yah that's totally in the bible. When Jesus handed out the loaves and fishes he checked to make sure no filthy homos got any.

 

again, you obviously lack the knowledge in this.

Christians know that gay-sex and living the lifestyle filled with gay-sex is wrong.

It's about the sin. It's no different than asking them to scribe the words "Congratulations on the Abortion" onto the cake.

The lesbians had previously been sold goods from the bakery but none were to support a gay-sex and gay-lifestyle message. The gay wedding cake does just that.

The homosexual activist who determined that the lesbians should receive in excess of $100,000 for having their feelings hurt is the problem here as are the 2 lesbian activists.

If the Constitution is to exist in this country, then the homosexual activist and the 2 lesbians will soon get an education.

 

Your rights end where mine begin. There would be ZERO penalty for a Muslim owned bakery doing the same as these folks. But I digress...if your religion is so important to you, having a business that deals with people on a daily basis may not be your thing, but it is your right to refuse service.

 

shows how much you know, many Christians are LGBT

 

Would you go into a Jewish Deli, and order a ham sandwich? If that Jewish Deli refuses to sell you a ham sandwich, are they being discriminatory? Or are you just being stupid to order a ham sandwich in a Jewish Deli?

So, why would a gay couple expect to get a cake for a gay wedding in an obvious Christian bakery?

 

And the left wonders why Trump is winning in the primaries..........

 

I'm awaiting to see what will happen to a company in my state now that they determined they can no longer afford to shut down production lines for prayers... lawsuits are starting to fly and we'll soon find out if someone has a right to interrupt and effective shut down a business while they take time to pray during work... while other employees stand around looking at each other waiting for those employees to get back on the line and get production moving again... was costing them $1,000,000 annually in lost productivity... and now because so many muslims were let go, they are considering stopping the city bus service the company paid at their own expense to extend to their factory so the workers could actually get there without a vehicle... amazing what the company tried to do for years and paid for out of pocket...

 

Not quite that simple, this isn't just a cake....it's a Wedding cake. A part of the experience that is getting Married, and it gets as many pictures as the some of the guests. While being traditionally part of the reception, it is a focal part of any wedding.

As such noone should have to make one if their religious beliefs do not believe in these new...ummm... "Marriages".

Perhaps a better way to say that would simply be America is populated by Christians? Why the slander on their faith? I know it's unpopular today to admit, but we have a Christian majority here in America, 70-80% depending on sources.

Noones faith says dont sell cakes, stop trying to make this into something trivial when it is more than a simple everyday "cake". I'm sure they'd make a Birthday cake or congratulations cake for anyone for any other occasion.

The big red flag here is Gay Weddings...not everyone believes they are legitimate, and many do not wish to be forced into being a part of one.


2 Questions guaranteed to be asked at any wedding, Beautiful flowers...who did them? Beautiful cake, who made it?

Maybe these bakers dont want to end up on those lists.

 

IF they sell ham sandwiches they need to sell them to everyone... they can though choose not to sell ham sandwiches to ANYONE, same as the bakers can choose not to make wedding cakes for ANYONE

the bakers issue was they did sell wedding cakes to some people.... that is the difference in your scenario.....

if the baker did not sell wedding cakes, you can't force them to sell wedding cakes.... simple

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do you mean just like

many people who support abortion are Christians? How about many murderes are Christians?

That's a flat out lie because you can't be living a life immersed in gay-sex and be Christian.

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it was to push the agenda of the lesbians

 

yes just like many soldiers that kill are Christians..
or those that divorce and remarry are Christians....



Judge not, lest you be judged....

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The law in question already applies to everyone. All sorts of people have had cases brought against them for discrimination against homosexuals and many will have had nothing to do with religion at all.

What you’re arguing for is that religious people should be free to do literally anything they want even if it is illegal. Polygamy, child marriage, public animal slaughter, open-air cremations, female genital mutilation; All practices that are illegal for everyone in many places but are often specifically religious practices. By your argument, all of these practice would become legal for those religious people.

Of course you probably don’t actually want that, you really just want the law to be in line with your personal religious beliefs and would be more than happy for followers of contrary religions to be prevented from religious practices you disagree with.

 

I believe the divorces were before she got saved.

 

she is still living in sin..... as being remarried is still adultery per the bible even to this day

 

false analogy. jewish deli's don't sell ham sandwiches to anyone. the bakery sells wedding cakes. they can't not sell wedding cakes based on the orientation or gender of the couple.

 

Please don't try to give a sermon. You're wrong.