Christian influence in society? Yes. A theocracy? No

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  1. Battle3

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    First you claim Jesus is apolitical, then you list all the political positions Jesus would endorse.

    And you skipped the major issue - you reneged on your promise, is that the example of your religion?
     
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    We need to be looking at the best information we have available.

    That requires cross checking with experts from around the USA and the world.

    That's a better approach that attempting to BLOCK information as you proposed earlier.
     
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    Jesus clearly had a lot to say about how we should live our lives.

    In fact, in Matthew 25:31-end Jesus is quoted as pointing out that how his own followers, the Christians of the day, can end up in hell along side Satan if they fail in duties involving searching out and helping others, especially those in prison, those in hospitals, those who are poor. Plus, he clearly walked that walk.

    That message has NOTHING to do with partisanship - the plague on America today.

    Frankly, as an atheist I would say we could use more of a "what would Jesus do" attitude.

    Plus, if Jesus IS God, then fewer Christians will be going to hell.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not say Jesus would endorse any political positions .. you are confused .. unable to understand what is before you.. the teachings of Jesus lost you Brother Battle.

    For the purposes of your education .. name one Political Position = one law that I said Jesus would endorse.
     
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    Socialism, which is a political system.

    You keep ignoring your failure to keep your promise.
     
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    What part of One Law .... did you not understand. Socialism is a meaningless term .. outside context.. one with many meanings .. and if you would have read properly .. unlike the blind .. I stated he would have been for the idea of generalized reciprocity .. which is a concept in socialism..

    So lost you are .. Putting words in the mouth of Jesus .. desperately trying to pin your failings onto others .. as misery loves company.

    What part of name "One Law" that I stated Jesus would be for .. did you not understand ? So hopelessly lost .. can not understand the simplest things..
     
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  7. Polydectes

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    Still you, it's only ever been you.
     
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    you say this but you want that to be your religion.
    just the ones you Cherry picked that affirm your religion that's how it's always worked
    That's false I'm attempting to block religious dogma so just because you really really want to believe that it's information doesn't mean it is.

    When it comes to this stupid climate change church I'm agnostic.
     
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    Good Grief Friend .. sounds like you have some teen-age crush .. no need for your worship I have - now Go .. and continue your search for valid argument : ) Peace ... be with you ..
     
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    Nobody in America supports moving to a socialist political system.
     
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    You are absolutely NOT agnostic, or you wouldn't have abandoned the search for truth in order to block all thought on the topic.
     
  12. Polydectes

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    You will respond to anything won't you?
     
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    now you're going to tell me what I think? Your religion has so permeated your mind that you think you're psychic now?

    Yes I am agnostic with regard to the stupid climate change cult. You just failed at evangelism. You can blame me for your failure all you want but it's still your failure.
    So you think I must repent in order to be saved? how is this different from any other religion?

    If the only truth that can be is whatever your religion tells you is true then it is only smart to abandon the quest of self-delution. You can pretend it's true you can even think that it's true but that doesn't make it true.
     
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    I agree that folks who do not think that climate changes are stupid .. what is your particular beef though - given science is not your forte ?
     
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    If God created the earth and everything in it for the good of man. And if the increase of science allowed us to mine and create the machinery and extract the oil from the earth to power the machinery. Then where did we go wrong?
     
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    Not sure where even to begin dissecting the irrational illogic from your "If/Then" statement :)
     
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    Didn't mean to throw you for a loop with my "irrational logic."
     
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    No worries mate .. wasn't thrown for a loop at all .. have rather come to expect irrelevant irrational and illogical from folks trying to defend literalist/fundamentalist position .. is the rule not the exception to find these folks caught in some web of contradiction and self deceit .. Look over at the "got.questions" thread .. Mitt is posting from 2014 - in response to and as a means of avoiding responding to the current conversation .. irrational - illogical on steroids .. so .. par for the course .. At least you are still responding with something .. kudo's for that much I suppose .. havn't completely checked out like Brother Mitt and his side-kick .. albeit knocking on the door .. well banging on it really .. trying to get in .. hoping there is room for one more.
     
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    The climate change cult is stupid.
     
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    We went wrong when we totally ignored God's requirement that we care for each other.

    Jesus spelled out this duty.

    And in the main, humans with access to the Bible just ran that part of the Bible through the shredder, as it didn't optimize individual gain.
     
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    I don't think there's any point in continuing any discussions with you. You don't really have anything of any merit to say.
     
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    It's a bit ironic that you're saying other people have put parts in the Bible in the shredder when you have.

    Do you use anything with a lithium ion battery in it you know slaves in the condo or digging up components for that so that you can have your device.

    If you're going to go after people and say they're not caring about others you should probably be caring about others.

    There's a part of the Bible you've put in the shredder.

    Do not think you can pluck a splinter from your brother's eye without first taking the one from your eye that's obscuring your vision.

    You were all gung-ho about electric cars so more slaves in the Congo for you I guess. And we're Chinese exploitation of other people but it doesn't matter cuz you don't have to see them right it's almost like they don't exist.
     
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    Why are you following me around like puppy .. after complaining about my responses .. spouting nonsense .. naked claims without support .. claiming that its others who have nothing of merit to say

    What about the climate change cult did you think was "Stupid" --- " X " . and don't be trying to finish my sentences now.
     
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    I apologize for touching a nerve.
     
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    Ironic.
     

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