Christianity and Homosexuality

Yeah . . . because what could be more unnatural than animals in nature?

 

No, they are the wolves in sheep's clothing Jesus warned about. On the day of judgement He will say to them, "Depart from Me, I never knew you." Jesus said his true followers are those that do His commandments, not those who just call Him Lord.

If homosexuality is natural, why are gay men 2% of the US population but 61% of new HIV cases, according to the CDC?

 

I think at some point the Catholic Church will separate, as other denominations have done, into those who are revisionists and those who honor God's word. It is no secret homosexaulity is rife in the Catholic Church, IMHO due to their unbiblical celibate priest requirement. That is the reason for the 'pedophilia' scandals, which are really a homosexual issue as almost all the perps and victims are male.

 

If we were members of the OT theocracy of Israel you might have a point.

 

Tell that to the poster I replied to. Since he/she was using OT, it seemed fair to include all the OT.
AFAIK, Jesus never said anything about gay.

But Jesus did say this: Matthew 5:18
New International Version
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

 

No, but individual voters can use that standard.

Just the voters, if we can get the activist judges out of the picture.

 

Why would He, it was a non-issue to His Jewish audience, who would have stoned a homosexual. He didn't say anything about bestiality or incest either. Jesus would have said the same thing to a repentant homosexual that He said to the woman caught in adultery, "Your sins are forgiven, go and sin no more."

Homosexuality WAS an issue to Paul's gentile audience, which is why he said a lot about it. Homosexuality was about as accepted in ancient pagan society as it is in modern Western pagan society.

 

Are you suggesting the gold ole days when homosexuals were stoned to death is the way the Church should deal with the issue today?

 

nope. The overwhelming vast majority of pedophiles who molest boys, are heterosexual.

 

So you think your religion trumps the US constitution? lol

 

No, and nobody in the NT, i.e. the Christian era, did either.

 

How do you imagine my religion conflicts with the Constitution? The Founders in fact wanted to foster Christianity, insofar as it did not violate others freedom of conscience or establish a state church.

 

So male + male = heterosexual? This Catholic bishop thinks the homosexual subculture in the church is the reason for the scandals.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/acco...rge-homosexual-subculture-clergy-abuse-crisis

 

We aren't animals. We are the spiritual offspring of our Heavenly Father and Mother. Animal spirits are not. Therefore, we have a conscience much different than animals.

 

It is pretty silly to say there is no homosexual behavior when it comes to men molesting boys. Yes, it's about power over another. But, why do men go after predominately little boys if they aren't homosexual or at least bisexual. They are obviously not heterosexuals only.

 

I would say they are possibly switch hitters who are looking for power over others like children. But, to say they are only heterosexuals wouldn't be true if it's a man molesting a boy. Sometimes their illness is called bisexual instead of homosexual called bisexual.

 

No, they are not. Our Conscience makes us completely unique and different. We have spirit bodies inside our physical bodies that came from Heaven. We are literal brothers and sisters from the spirit world before we came down and received our physical bodies. Animal spirits are not spirit children of our Heavenly parents. We are different.

 

Pedophilia is a crime of opportunity. Most pedophiles go after kids that are available and ones that they can get alone with frequently enough to groom, without alarms going off with the adults around. So its either the baseball coach of little league or the priest with alter boys, or the PE teacher. We accept those relationships as mentoring. With family relationships, its not nearly as hard to hang around the granddaughter or niece, or even the daughter. What we do know is the pedophilia is consistently male. Women rarely prey on children.

 

How did Washington foster Christianity?

 

Why do you cherry pick?

 

Well, one point you are missing is that religion is not a legitimate justification for discrimination by our government.

If the state offers marriage licenses, it can not choose to discriminate who gets a license based on argument that is purely religious.

 

It's the same point as slavery, which was accepted in the NT.

You are still trying to apply ancient culture to our modern society. In fact, you want our government to enforce your ideas on culture - even when those of your own religion do not necessarily agree with you.

Our government does not make behavior illegal merely because some religion holds it as a sin.

There are no laws against the majority of the 10c and none against the 7 deadly sins. That is not what we use law for.

 

You were told by another poster that homosexuals don’t have to conform to your religious views, nor can you violate their constitutional rights. You said sure you can, with voters and removing judges you disagree with.

 

Nope. The vast majority of males who molest boys are heterosexuals.

https://www.abusewatch.net/pedophiles.pdf

 

Words mean things. Heterosexual had a specific meaning. So does pedophile. The simple empirical fact remains, the vast majority of men who milestones boys are heterosexual.