Christianity and Homosexuality

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  1. dairyair

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    57pp long. I am not looking for it.
    Got a reference?
     
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    "****philes." It's obviously being censored. Can you type it with a space between each letter?
     
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    H E B E phile

    H e b e philia is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14 and showing Tanner stages 2 to 3 of physical development.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****philia

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18686026/

    Under the DSV psychiatric diagnostic manual h e b e philia is defined as a sub-type of pedophilia and not as a distinct philia. For me I witnessed two distinct types of pedophilia and I found h e b e philes very rarely molesting or being attracted to children with NO sexual characteristics-they needed to see some, this the term. The head space of these people is different.

    Because in our society sexualizing children in various stages puberty is now the norm particularly in the music industry and when selling fashion, perfume, alcohol people have become oblivious to it. Western culture idolizes beauty and beauty is defined usually by teenagers or adults with teenage features.
     
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    What's interesting is that sexual intercourse with 11-14 year olds was normal at one point in history. I guess every man was a h e b ephile! And I have no idea why h e b e is censored!
     
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    Oh Yes changing morality has a lot to do with sexual behaviour definitions. Back in the 60's you were defined as mentally ill of you were gay and sodomy is still a crime in many states and was removed from the Canadian Criminal Code ( I am Canadian) oh about 15 years ago. Like you said marrying such underage children was normal. As society has evolved its changed. Yet as we have raised the age on say consenting sex, we also are at the point where many more behaviours once called deviant or a sign of a mental illness are now deemed "normal".

    If you went to a doctor in the 1950's and asked him to castrate you and give you female hormones they would have put you in an institution and given you electric shock therapy to deal with any obsessive thoughts or feelings to want to change sexes. People we now call autistic were called mentally ill twenty years ago. In fact people in the past we said were possessed by Satan we now know might have have had rabies, other brain viruses(mad cow disease) and even some kinds of brain tumours or schizophrenia. You are absolutely right. Morality and what we deem as "normal" swings like a pendelum over periods of time.. We had very open sex behaviour in the 60's now that behaviour would be condemned as politically unacceptable and inappropriate. Things we censor and cancel today in terms of humour were considered funny less than 10 years ago.

    You really want to see how fast morality changes watch the stand up comedians over the years. They mirror the "values" of the moment they are in and you can see the changes.

    In terms of religious values, as you know what Christianity lectured even 10 years ago is different than today in many churches. People say Christianity does not change-well with some it does not, but with others it does..likewise in any religion so you have a range from traditional to ultra modern. Its hard to keep up.

    For me working in a clinical setting all I can tell you is while so much stuff changes what does not change is what you and I know based on common sense, any relationship with violence, abuse, power imbalance is problematic. That much we know. I make no claim as to what is right for you morally but I cannot imagine you and I disagree that violence and abuse are unacceptable and we both would believe a strong family unit is a key to building astrong society.

    I think what we see are less and less strong family units or people with unifying beliefs and so we see confusion as to many moral values.

    There was a time you learned your moral values from your house of worship and family now it comes from the media, internet and entertainment.

    You know I may be less rigid than some on what I worry about but its because I learned violence and exploitation or the vulnerable is the most serious. The rest of the confusion and conflicts between consenting non violent adults not spreading disease can wait. Modern pastoral counseling pretty much reflects that. They are trying to save marriages and prevent abuse not so much try police people.
     
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    Behaviour such as what?

    You mean on cultural matters?

    What TYPE of family unit?

    Can you rephrase?
     

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