Christianity is a false religion

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  1. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Apparently you've already forgotten that the ten commandments wasn't a new age diet formula. God was telling his people how to treat one another. If you persist in ignoring the meaning of his words and replacing it with your own. Then you are an interloper, a false God, whose self serving silliness I reject.
     
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    Canell Well-Known Member

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    There are many ancient books that survived to this day. So the Bible surviving is not that of a miracle, especially when you take into consideration the number of Christians throughout history.

    Dunno, I'm not very familiar with Church hierarchy and who can baptize and who cannot.

    OK, that makes sense. Being able to make conscious and adult choice to be baptized.
    However being baptized doesn't secure ones place in a sin free Heaven now does it? :)
     
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  3. philosophical

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    I am paying attention to the words, the meanings you might attribute to them are open to dispute. What objective analysis make you right and me wrong?
    Reject away, you're no evangelist for Christianity.
     
  4. Dirty Rotten Imbecile

    Dirty Rotten Imbecile Well-Known Member

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    Haven’t you heard? Religion is not something that can be objectively understood, therefore it doesn’t have to be credible or make sense.
     
  5. Injeun

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    The truth is self evident. Your failure to acknowledge it speaks for itself. You've yet to address the innumerable creatures that die for the sake of your possessions and your food. So by your own self righteous measure, you are a mass killer/murderer. Jesus said that what we eat doesn't defile us, but what we speak, as we speak our hearts. So you are in direct opposition to Jesus Christ, as well as to the same God of the ten commandments, as Jesus Christ is the rebirth and first fruits of Judaism. So at both ends you oppose the same God.

    If you think that you are made righteous by what you eat, then that opens the door to legions of sins. You think that killing and eating an animal is murder because murder is in your heart. So you rationalize that someone who kills and eats an animal is a murderer. But it is because you have put your heart into their action, without knowledge of what's in their heart. Yet you judge them. So who you are really condemning is yourself and the murder that resides within your own heart. This is why judging by appearance is risky business. Perhaps then you should mind your own, and leave judgment to God.
     
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    The Bible is not just one book. It is many books compiles over more than 4000 years into one. Any ideas how many have tried to wipe it out or add to it during those times?

    Of course not. Here's something for you to explore....
    Read in the Gospel of Luke Chapter 23 verses 39-43. Jesus was crucified between two murderers/thieves. One of them hurled insults at Jesus while the other on the other side confessed his guilt, and believed Jesus is who He said he is. Jesus responded "I tell you the truth,today you will be with me in paradise."
    Does that answer your question? A thief nailed to a cross cannot be baptized or even do any "good works".....all he could do is "believe".
    Baptism is a ritual initiated by Jesus for the edification of the Body of Christ and a bolster to ones faith and understanding.
     
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  7. Canell

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    Thank for explaining but I'm not coming from a cave, you know. I know about the Bible, the council of Nicaea, etc.

    Yeah but Jesus said that that believing business is pretty hard. I have yet to see a person who has moved a mountain with his faith/believing. Can you name one? :lol: So, what are the facts - it's hard if not impossible to have faith even with the size of a mustard seed. ;)

    Sure it does. I often hear about baptized people as "saved".
    However, I understand it this way - for the Christian religion getting you into its orbit is the most important thing. No matter how you screw up afterwards, the important thing is to become a Christian, aka "saved". A clever, almost cunning trick of a proselytic religion to get followers. Become one of us = job done. :)
     
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  8. philosophical

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    I may be all the things you say I am, but I don't go around the place repeating thou shalt not kill. That is where I see the hypocrisy from those that say they are mindful of the commandments.
     
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    India, the most populous country in the world, consumes very little meat, being mostly vegetarian. The most consumed meat is fish.
     
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    For you.
     
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    The commandments don't applied to non-human animals so the only hypocrisy that exists only exists in your mind.

    The Bible also gave man the dominion over all non-human animals. Yes that means care for them if we choose or to slay and eat them or to exterminate them.
     
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    I didn't say anything about vegetarians.
     
  13. WillReadmore

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    You can't assume that a vegetarian population is feeding their kids meat.
     
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    I didn't say anything about vegetarians.
     
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    yES, i HAVE HEARD IT REFERRED TO AS "SLOPPY AGAPE AND GREASY GRACE.
     
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    Logical consistency! Perhaps this is my God. Did the Greeks have a God for this? One of my all time favorites is Plato’s assertion that Love is the child of Resource and Need. Perhaps Zeus himself, (Jesus?) by default is the God of logical consistency? Does the Atman live without it? No, absolutely not. Lao Tzu or Confucius or the Buddha, nope. It is essential, ah, imo. Power, Passion and Wealth, these Gods defeat Logic every time though, don’t they?
     
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    You are wrong. I reckon this Satan bloke has got you in their grip to make you so bloodthirsty.
     
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    Is that the best you can do?
     
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    It's just vegan claptrap. Don't argue with it just mock it.
     
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    This is quite true.[​IMG]
     
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    Yes, they order people to behave in certain ways, demand that people believe in a specific god, etc.

    One can find other OT law, too. Leviticus is full of legal proscriptions carrying very serious penalties.

    None of this is a basis for our law.
     
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    This particular tangent is in regards to Philosophical's contention that "Thou shall not kill" means that it is a sin to eat animals.
     

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