Christianity is a false religion

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Personally, I am not one of those oddballs. It is in His time, not mine. I understand "end times" comes and goes for every one of us. Someday, and I don't know exactly when, there will be a "reckoning for sin". There will by a final cataclysmic event......and then a New World.
     
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    I understand the Apostle Peter most likely thought he was in THE end times. He was crucified upside down then it was over for him here. That was not THE end time. It was a mini end time.
     
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    Yesterday, today,,, maybe a few years out... but "forever" doesn't concern me... not in THIS life... I won't be here.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We just see things differently. I'll be elsewhere but I'll BE.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct you are. Jesus said it would be like "birthing pains". We are seeing only minor contractions , but there will be a delivery someday.
     
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    Yesterday, today,,, maybe a few years out... but "forever" doesn't concern me... not in THIS life... I won't be here.
     
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    Don’t forget a colonoscopy to go with all that. ;)
     
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    Been eating like that for years. Never needed a colonoscopy. The key to health is rare red meat and beer.
    You can graze and eat tulips if you want though.
     
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    Here’s to good health
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    Be? what does that mean?
     
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    I'm in it for eternity. I don't comprehend entirely the substance of my existence but I believe it will be more perfect than this one.
     
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    If this is as perfect as it gets... we're in DEEP KIMCHEE!!!
     
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    The reason for a colonoscopy is to detect issues before you are a few bloody steaks beyond being salvageable.
     
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    Is that true just for humans, or are all mammals eternal?
     
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    For those created in the image of God for sure. Honestly, I don't know about mammals. I would love to have my dogs with me in eternity. Who knows, God might honor that. Perhaps you are one that thinks we evolved from lower life forms and we're the same as all Mammals. If so, I have no answers for you.
     
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    How do you tell if one was "created in the image of god"?
     
  17. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know how I know. Supposedly you are well versed in the Bible but you only use it to mock and make political points. I use it to understand the will of God.
     
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    I'm fine with Christian ideas on the afterlife, etc. I don't know the answer to the question I asked.

    I promote the life of Jesus and his direction on the Earthly lives of his disciples.

    I side with science and with the 1st amendment directive that requires our government to in effect be secular.
     
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    Everybody- who is any kind of person of value in the world, subscribes to standards and values. Where those come from varies widely, but the primary values of the Christian religions, such as the 10 commandments- are very positive and beneficial to our society. Certainly, better as a general guide to life than the conduct exemplified by the majority of groups that are running nations. Thus, a person who lives by the values of such a religion tends to be more of an asset to the community as well as to themselves and their family.

    I am not a religious person in the common sense, I don't believe there is a god in the biblical form. I do believe there is a higher power, which is the source of the values that make people good individuals and allow them to form healthy relationships and societies. Thus, while not Christian in the literal sense, I follow a path and values that are the plan of that higher power- and doing so has served me very well in every aspect of life. Most people need a foundation to build their lives on, and while I have many criticisms of religions and the people who have used them abusively, I feel confident in saying that without those religions, we would all be the worse for lack of them. The human condition does not do well when it lacks a moral framework, a solid foundation of beliefs to provide stability amidst the chaos that some will always inject into our world.

    So "false" may apply to christianity- but it also applies to a great many things that people adhere to and follow every day, that are a hell of a lot less beneficial.
     
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    Revelations 2:15 "Beware of demented old men shaking hands with invisible people before adoring throngs of devil worshippers"
     
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    I agree with that way of looking at it, though we can't just ****-can philosophy when it doesn't claim to be a religion.
     
  22. yabberefugee

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    Science has absolutely no answer for how life is created. Without understanding the first three Chapters of Genesis, I don't know how anyone understands the purpose and the life of Jesus.
     
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    There are LOTS of questions that science has not answered so far.

    That doesn't mean that the appropriate answer is "god did it", and then quitting.

    The appropriate answer is "I don't know" and then to continue studying. What happened that anyone would think humans know it all?

    Remember that the life of Jesus is a step that REPLACED the religion of the OT. It didn't replace all of it. It didn't replace the claims of how powerful the god is claimed to be.

    But it did replace how one gets to heaven and how one is to live ones life on Earth (as in Matthew 25:31-end, the Sermon on the Mount, his demonstration of love towards foreigners, nonbelievers and sinners). His life itself is the message.

    The Christian message to mankind comes through Jesus, not the laws of Leviticus, the stories of Jonah, Noah, Job (!!), the slaughter of Joshua, or even the creation allegories.
     
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    Jesus fulfilled the OT. He did not do away with it. Actually, Hebrews Chapter 11, some call the Hebrew Hall of Fame, explains how men and women received the gift of heaven in the O.T. While those of us who "believe" in Christ and who he claimed to be are "justified by faith" so were the faithful in the O.T.who by their belief, "justified by faith". When we put our trust in God who Created us, He gives us all, both OT and NT, grace to cover our sin. God, in the person of Jesus, demonstrated how it is possible. Jesus demonstrated for us how we are to live. He also sent us the Holy Spirit which gives us the power to live that way when we believe.

    The law was given in the O.T. and human pride gave us the assumption we could add to and live by the law. It is a study in human nature that.....it can't be done. We see it today in those that say "I don't need faith, I am a good person. The NT is the acceptance of that premise, and the "Good News" we aren't approved by our works but by our faith in our God and what He has done for us. The "good works" come after faith.
     
  25. Canell

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    Traditionally whining comes from ... people of tradition - clerics and hard core believers. So, you are free to whine, if you want to, you are excused. :lol:

    See, that's what I meant. Nagging 2000 years about the end of the world.
    It's called "negative neurolinguistic programming (NLP)" and it's very powerful. :no:

    Not really. If we all behaved like Jesus - dying virgin and having no family and kids - the world would REALLY come to an end very quickly. :frustrated:The human population at least. :nod:

    That the Church stuff I don't agree with. Isn't it written in the Scripture that everybody would be judged according their deeds, not according to their faith? :evileye:
     
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