'Civil war is brewing': In second letter, French soldiers condemn Macron

A good proposal but difficult to fulfill.France, Germany, Belgium, Sweden any many another european countries are already practically run by so-called Islamists.They have money, political power, bought politicians and officials, tons of weapons, structures etc. No one army can success in city fights.Europeans elected dimwits in parliaments, people just good for nothing except lying, getting bribed and pie in the sky promising.It's the pay day coming, Europeans shall give their countries to another peoples, to those who hadn't rejected God as 'progressive' Europeans, to those who were invited to stay and were feed by taxpayers for generations.It looks like Europa is done, the best solution would be to leave it as soon as possible.


A group of serving French soldiers has published a new open letter in a conservative magazine, warning President Emmanuel Macron that the “survival” of France is at stake after he made “concessions” to Islamism.
The letter posted on the Valeurs Actuelles website late on Sunday echoes the tone of a similar letter published by the same magazine last month, which also warned that a civil conflict was brewing.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1623093

 

No, none of they are even close to being ran by 'islamists'. Where do you get these such ideas?

 

Well it's more than an internal issue isn't it, Turkey is actively exploiting the large number of muslims in France to stir division & unrest....as Erdogan is stirring trouble in many other parts of the world....Greece, Israel, Iraq, Nagorno-Karabakh, Chechnya, Libya, Mali, Ukraine, Syria...I'm sure there's more as he seem to have adhd and trouble focussing on one problem, thereby simply creating more problems.

He has become the crime lord of running guns and smuggling people for money, the lucrative business of war completely blinding him to the suffering he is leaving in his wake. I fear his latest venture in Israel is going to backfire on him...and the rest of us.

 

Get out but where do you go?

The United States?
The United Kingdom?
Canada?
Australia?
New Zealand?

They're all in the same boat. The whole Anglosphere is in decline at the moment.

 

Hungary or Poland.

 

Better write which European mainstream party doesn't support islamic extremists?

 

being *run

As for where he gets these silly ideas, short answer is the internet. Most of the "news" on it is fake because that's what sells.

 

The West shall perish by:

1. So-called 'vaccine'
2. Islamic fundamentalism
3. Immigration of low IQ unskilled immigrants from the third world in welfare systems.

For the white Christian man stay only Latin America or Russia as refuges

 

LOL
No chance

Any EU country will die.

 

Or maybe you can write which one supports islamic extremists.

 

There is no real proposal :

There was two letters :
One made by retired generals that ended to be defamed by a wide variety of politics, mainly left wing but not only. They warned of the risk of a civil war, asked for more respect toward the country and laws to be applied as they should be. They ended to be slandered and accused to want to start this civil war. The generals ended to be punished for their warnings.

The second letter is of young active soldiers that wanted to stay anonymous to avoid the fate of their elder. They supported their elders and stated clear that nobody want a civil war but one could happen if politicians don't take this matter seriously.

Those letters try to warn of a risk, they were answered by slanderings and other shamefull attacks.

Not wishing for my family or friends to be murdered, tortured or raped as it happen during civil wars, I don't wish that to happen, however, if we react this way when people who served the country try to warn of those risks, we shouldn't be surprized if it happen.

 

All of them issue laws against effective fight against islamists.
If you doesn't comply with you're automatically a Nazi, Fascist, Conspiracy Theorist etc. etc. etc., you can lose your job or be being murdered by Antifa.

 

Europa today is the ship of fools run by corrupted dishonest idiots.
No smallest chance to survive within few years.
The only right solution would be to leave the dying continent

 

Lose the support of your military and you've pretty much lost....call 'em out to support the government in a crisis and they stay in their barracks what's the government gonna do then?

 

My health is really crappy so I couldn't leave anyway. Furthermore leaving for what ? To abandon my family, my friends, everyone I hold dear ? To let forever the landscapes I grew in and hold dear ? I prefer to die there honnestly, and my own death is far to be the most terrible thing that could happen. There is people that I cherish more than my own life.
Thing can turn pretty nasty here as there is a growing gap between people, I think that there is actual danger, but not all is lost.

At the opposite of what people suggested in France, I don't think that the military would attempt a coup, excepted if the situation is completely desesperate which isn't the case yet.
If there is a crisis, it's likely the army would intervene, not to protect a government they scorn, but just to protect the regular people.

But yes, some politicians humiliated those soldiers, that's a bad idea.

 

You didn't answer the question.

Which European governments support islamic extremists? Turkey?

 

Islamist in the long run will be there own demise. I have the optimism to think that authoritarism will fail in the end even if the future could promise us complete dystopian hell "thanks" to technologies that might read even our emotionnal states.
There is a huge rise of irreligion in muslim countries for a few decades, and it's possible that in Iran real muslims are actually a minority of 40 % and the rest of them are atheists. It's hard to answer in a country where legally the state could murder them for leaving Isla.

I'm not a big optimistic by nature, quite the opposite, and even if I think that the next years/decades would be of an excessive economic then global violence, I'm confident that after winter come spring, that would be just a strong and long winter.

 

As a french citizen, I have thinks to reproach them :
_It's possible they financed anti Assad militia, contribution to islamic extremism, the same for Lybia. I'm neither a supporter of Gaddafi or Assad, but I'm afraid that the governement of my country played a bad role in the civil wars that happened in those countries.
_ It's sure they financed some Islamist (not terrorist in this case) organization, such the Mili Goru through a Mosque, an organization that is supported by Erdogan and doesn't respect our core values.
_ There is definitively a level of laxism against terrorists.
_ My country asked Iraq and Syria to not apply death penalty to terrorists there. We're speaking of people who commited genocide and slave trade, there is no mercy to have for those scums.

 

The US does that routinely, but I don't think that is what the posted was talking about, since he said the European governments support islamic extremists in their countries, not by trying to support anti-Assad Kurds, or other opposition.

It doesn't matter. People tend to say whatever comes to their minds.

 

dont know about the rest of europe
but in belgium the federal goverment has 7 political party's
4 of them are 100% pro muslim(socialists and green french+dutch)
+ the current flemish liberals are stuck in a scandal where they where throwing money as subsidies to a muslim of that party to set up programs for poor kids (wich she then used for her own gain like renovating her house on the backs of those kids)
so i would say atleast 5

1 anti islam party in oposition thats about it

 

Pro-muslim? What have they done and says to support islamic extremists?

 

Of course not anything is lost, but what could you do living among cowardly idiots?

 

I still think we're better off than the US, UK & Canada and the Kiwis are now Nai Zang province so no good either

 

We do okay. The core of the problem is the Anglosphere has lost all self respect. Every one of us on all sides of politics are just so damn cynical.

 

There is still positive things. I except huge difficulties for the future, I'm not sure I would survive them, but I prefer to stay there.

And even if everything would be lost, my place would be with my family, friends and everyone I want to support in time of hardships.