Climate change: February was hottest month on record as 'exceptional' Nasa shows

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  1. jc456

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    still cool here in Chicago and I am complaining.
     
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    funny stuff and then there are headlines like this from CNBC:

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/26/polar-vortex-set-to-menace-us-in-a-week-report.html

    "'Polar Vortex' set to menace US in a week: Report
    Javier E. David | @TeflonGeek
    Saturday, 26 Mar 2016 | 5:03 PM ET"

    Mother nature says otherwise:

    " Accuweather.com reported on Saturday that the dreaded "Polar Vortex" — a formation of arctic air that has menaced swaths of the country for the better part of the last few winters — is set to return in early April. According to the forecast, the temperature shift may bring "record cold to parts of the Midwest and East."

    As Spring begins its first full month, temperatures will average 15-30 degrees Fahrenheit below normal, Accuweather said. Some of the coldest air will target the North Central States, with New York City seeing 40-degree temperatures. A separate forecast this week from Weather 2000 also predicted a return of a "Vernal Vortex" that would likely mean colder air through early April."
     
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    What if it doesnt even come close?

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    No it hasnt.

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    Scientists have been using lots of words since the 1800s. But until recently those on your side used global warming not climate change. This is all about politics power and money not science. When will you people wake up ?
     
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    Nope its AGW to scientists and always has been. Sorry
     
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    Wait I was just told they were using climate change since the 1800s. Which is it?
     
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    The alarmists cannot tolerate any discussion of the little ice age or the Medieval Warm Period because the shaft of Mann's hockey stick eliminates the concept of climate variability. The shaft shows essentially no variation of global temperature for the last 2000 years (except for a slight cooling trend). The blade of the hockey stick is created by abandoning the tree ring proxies (which do not match the temperature rise in the late 20th century - they actually show a decline) and using actual temperature data. The result of this is to lock the alarmists into a false conclusion that all warming starting in the late 19th century is due to CO2 emissions from human activity thus rejecting any natural climate variations from other sources. Any one disputing this is labelled a denier. The net negative result of the hockey stick is to prevent an accurate assessment of human contribution both in absolute terms and policy terms. The acceptance of the hockey stick without the requirement to show how the previous (pre computer aided statistical) methods were wrong is telling and is indicative of political noble cause corruption. Applying advanced and complicated statistical analytical tools to bad data does not produce reliable results. Garbage in always yields garbage out regardless of the sophistication of the garbage processor.
     
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    The IPCC has never validated the climate models it uses. It uses general circulation models to verify other models, a procedure that is not empirical verification but rather more speculation.

    Some here don't understand that an hypothesis is just scientific speculation or that the models used by the alarmists have never been empirically verified or that real world is not acting like the hypothesis, such as the missing hot spot which is crucial to the hypothesis. In other words, the hypothesis is failing.

    What they do is take a one month spike (due to El Nino) after 18 years of hiatus and claim it is proof of the hypothesis.
     
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    You should really google what a hypothesis is.

    Isn't it funny how you are using the 1997 El Nino spike as evidence that there was no warming for 18 years, but then say that this year's El Nino spike doesn't count? Lol. You can't have it both ways.
     
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    Not true. Global warming is just one aspect of climate change. There is also ocean acidification, sea level rise, changes in precipitation patterns, desertification, ect.

    If you have a fever, and it turns out that it is caused by pneumonia, you don't stop having a fever just because you refer to the collection of symptoms as pneumonia.
     
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    Polar vortexes are directly linked to climate change. Loss of Arctic sea ice leads to a weakening in the stratospheric polar vortex, causing the cold temperatures in the mid latitudes.

    http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2014/140902/ncomms5646/full/ncomms5646.html#author-information
     
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    There has been no change in the rate of sea level rise. And climate variability is not proof of global warming.
     
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    Not surprised you have that completely backwards. The warmists say this one matters but the last one didn't. The crow about global warming and because of a spike and ignore the previous 18 years of hiatus.
     
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    funny stuff gene. it is a natural behavior when warm air hits the Pacific and pushes the cold south. Come on man, if you're going to get in this thingy, know something about it. it's a natural event, and I ask why isn't it happening all year long? BTW, that link was totally useless. perhaps you could summarize what you were looking to use out of it? LOL. Too funny gene.
     
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    November was the hottest month on record......no, December was the hottest month on record....then January was the hottest month on record....then February.....with this never ending string of "hottest months on record" by now the average global temperature should be 140 deg F in the shade :roflol:

    Isn't it amazing what constantly fudging the temperature data can do.........
     
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    You should probably read what you write before you hit reply. This is nonsensical and very embarrassing.
     
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    Its in the news all the time, a never ending list of "hottest months on record". Warmists have lost all credibility, nobody believes warmist fanatics anymore. Its gone from "science", to desperation, to lies, to a scam, to a joke.
     
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    You mean like ignoring 18 years of hiatus then getting all wet over a one month hot spike due to a naturally occurring El Nino?
     
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    Meanwhile the bristlecone rings continue their downward temperature proxy trajectory. The bristlecone blade is pointing down. :eekeyes:
     
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    You can not change the mind of a denier. They operate on faith and faith can not be denied. The NEED to believe in their grand conspiracy. That's fine with me....the rest of the planet moves on without them.
     

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