Climate change: February was hottest month on record as 'exceptional' Nasa shows

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  1. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...ebruary-hottest-month-on-record-a6930981.html

    Should start buying property here in the AK before it because the next California!! Getting hot out there kids. Don't worry though, the earths temperature has changed before so you're probably all good, lol. There are literally still adults out there that still believe this is all made up. Kind of humorous how the largest group of adults in the world that do not agree with AGW are American conservatives. The flat earthers.
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The 'hottest month' is due to the sun and wind driven El Nino. What comes next is the question, there is a 50% chance of a La Nina. El Nino's affect weather worldwide.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    No warming here fellas...

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  4. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    typical rw denial. in this post, it is due to simple reasons, if the assertion for warming was a computer model, then it is too complex. shows once again the ridiculous position of deniers.
     
  5. Quantum Nerd

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    Time to sell real estate in Miami, as they continue to see an increase in non-storm-related flooding (high tide floods):

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article41534928.html

    Of course, converting the energy industry to renewable would cost a bit. However, there is 1.4 trillion dollars of real estate within 660 feet of the oceans. The Miami area alone contributes about $260 billion to GDP. Compared to those numbers, a bit of investment into renewable energy seems a pittance.

    On the other hand, coastal real estate is mainly held by the wealthy. Maybe that's nature's solution for rising inequality: Flood their vacation homes. Funny, though, that it is often these same wealthy who fight against AGW policy, because they don't want to pay a small % more in taxes.

    For me, I love the record early spring temperatures in the North East. Living on high ground far away from the ocean has its advantages.
     
  6. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one said there wasn't warming with this El Nino. It shows up in the satellite records too. The question is what happens next. Noticed you didn't attribute your graph to which record is being used but I can bet it is the massively adjusted one that the NOAA just came out with, the one that is adjusted cooler in the past and warmer in the present every adjustment. Cute putting a sun behind it for the 'scary' effect but it does signify the real culprit of warming, the same sun that heats the oceans.
     
  7. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    So this comes directly on the heels of NASA deciding that their satellite data needed to be tweeked because it didn't show that there was an eighteen year hiatus in warming. Do you think that NASA 'adjusting' their data to compensate for the recalitrent attitudes of 15 global warming agnostic satellites just 30 days ago has anything to do with a supposedly record warm February? Do you doubt for even an instant that if NASA tweeked the numbers in the other direction, we would be warned about the coldest February in history and that is a result of anthropogenic global climate change?

    Color me shocked that when NASA publicly announced they would begin futzing with the numbers that anomolous readings would begin to happen.
     
  8. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Wait, so you anti-science guys don't use the 97-98 el nino event to start most of your charts to show there has been "no warming"? Lol. I love how NASA and climatologists are smart enough to know how much heat comes from El Nino but aren't smart enough to know how much comes from humans. It's hilarious what you guys pick and choose.
     
  9. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Well now, hold on just a second... We're not allowed to prove global warming is a hoax after a record cold month, so why do you guys get to prove it's real after a record warm month?

    How about we just keep going on believing what we want to believe? We might be in trouble in about 650,000 years or more, but in the meantime, everybody will be perfectly fine. This is normal, especially during and after an El Nino, something all of us on this forum has seen. This one is actually no different than the Nino from '97-'98.

    http://ggweather.com/enso/oni.htm

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  10. Steve N

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    Not being susceptible to a hoax does not make a person a flat earther. There are several issues at hand:

    1. Is the earth warming?
    2. Is it due to human activity?
    3. How do we explain the retreat of N American glaciers which occurred before we started driving Hummers?
    4. Now that the left has firmly concluded beyond any shadow of a doubt that the planet is warming then further research is pointless, redundant and a waste of money, so it needs to stop being funded by taxpayers.
     
  11. akphidelt2007

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    Pretty much the most ridiculous thing I've read. What we need to do is figure out how not to continue burning fossil fuels and destroying the Earth even more. "Oh the fire is already burning, might as well let it burn". Lol, great analogy.
     
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    That chart is inaccurate.
     
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    first and foremost, the only thing deniers have proved is their lack of science. to prove it, go collect the data, run the models, and the temperatures need to the same if there were no humans on the planet.
     
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    Yea, I'm probably going to stick with NASA on this one. Sorry bud!
     
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    I like how they claim they're the adults but call Conservatives "flat earthers." I may be out of the loop here, but what the hell is a flat earther?
     
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    I don't care what you do, to be honest. You're the one that looks foolish. You go ahead and stick with the Aeronautics and Space Administration, I'm gonna have to go with the Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on this one, therefore still believing your chart is inaccurate.
     
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    What are you talking about? You get me a time machine and I'll get all the data you need. Until then, it's all just speculation on temperatures before we started recording them. And so you know... The longest-running temperature record is the Central England temperature data series, that starts in 1659. The longest-running quasi-global record starts in 1850.
     
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    How do we "figure out how not to continue burning fossil fuels and destroying the Earth even more" by studying climate? Is it because we'll develop more efficient solar cells by staring at our thermometers?

    "Destroying the Earth?" Lololololol If anyone actually believes that and owns a car, uses air conditioning, flies on a plane, etc then that person would be a total hypocrite.
     
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    Science isn't rw denial. If you don't know what drives El Ninos then don't make yourself look stupid.

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    Even the IPCC recognizes the hiatus even though the alarmists refuse to. Talk about anti-science. You are not even aware of what is not known about El Nino events or how each one is different.
     
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    Thanks for proving that it is impossible to discern an human influence.
     
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    I just love how anyone who can say a boy is a girl and a girl is a boy can accuse someone else of denying science.
     
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    that is what you have to do in order to prove mankind has no effect on climate

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    yet you claim in another post that there is a simple explanation. :)
    thank you for making my point.

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    please stay on topic troll
     
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    The questions is not if we're warming. We are. It's how much is man responsible and that question can NOT be answered. Only guessed at which makes it about as accurate as a blind monkey throwing darts.

    If man is completely responsible now, how did the earth warm and cool before we got here?

    To go broke over a guess is beyond stupid.

    Yes, we should get off of fossil fuels. Yes oil is not good for the environment. If we make oil $1000 a barrel will that improve our quality of life? No. Will it stop climate change. Nobody has a fracking clue and anyone who says they do is literally insane.
     
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    The topic at the moment was being a science denier and I discussed it. Your denial of accepted and settled science does not make me a troll.
     
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    For El Nino, it is simple, sun and prevailing winds. That has been known a long time but predicting the event is not something they can do.
     

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