Climate Change: You can deny, but you can't hide.

I don't know why these people caused you so much angst.

yeah but the people causing more damage to environmentalism are the cult members. When you inconvenience normal people They are probably not going to be sympathetic to your cause.

Is there a point in this?

 

How the liberals love to make up stuff to validate their meaningless assertions. Remember these gems? Famine in1975, didn't happen. Same thing in 2012, didn't happen. Oil gone, Acid rain, NYC underwater, Ozone gone, New Ice Age, Doomsday clock expires, all didn't happen. Bernie backs AOC's quackery of the 12 year countdown to the end of the world. New predictions same old bullshit.

 

That would take a long damn time, but you know that. So silly of me to expect a serious response.

 

Sooooooo - the scientists have missed the fact the sun got hotter?

 

And I guess this does happen because most do not know the difference between bad journalism and good science

 

I think they need the Greta Thunberg helpline lols!

Warning contains traces of Australian humour

 

If they were serious they would....
https://business.tutsplus.com/articles/best-web-video-conferencing-software--cms-31845

 

More to the point, you can't be the most learned climatologist on the planet and credibly claim to understand it.

 

By vast majority, I mean there's so many more of us that we are not going to do ANY of the things that the eco-doomsayers claim MUST be done NOW to stave off eco-doom.

 

So, in other words, you don't know when. I accept that. We don't know, and that's my point.

 

So, if you're of such a majority, just do it. Why do you wait until you can compel a few remaining climate denying holdouts to join you? Are you really willing to let eco-doom come upon us because you couldn't compel a few remaining climate denying holdouts to join you?

 

Climate change transcends humanity.

 

You don't know, and I don't believe you; what's more, the vast majority of people don't believe you.
Eco-doomsayers are a very small and very vocal minority of humanity. I find them easily dismissed.

 

That is definitely NOT "more to the point." Learned climate scientists understand it far better than you or I, and certainly better than our "stable genius" and other deniers. When the top people in the many disciplines involved get together or communicate their findings to each other (which they do often), concensuses arise from properly tested science. It's how we know that at least 97% of the scientists involved in those disciplines are in agreement on anthropogenic global warming (AGW), which means that human industrial activity is causing an excelleration of rising global temperatures.

At what point do you stop listening to political pundits on this issue and start listening to those who know what they're talking about?

I just heard Trump call the COVID-19 "coronavirus" a Democratic hoax. Are you willing to bet your life on that? Or will you listen to the experts who tell us it will spread here, and will likely kill 2% at least of those who contract it? I bought masks and gloves because as someone over 60 with an historically troubled immune system, diabetes, a cancer survivor with an abbreviated disgestive system, I'm not willing to risk my life because those in charge of our government are too stupid to protect us. How at-risk are you?

 

Epic fail. You made a claim that you know isn't true, and you can't back it up with facts. Not having a clear understanding of what your fellow citizens think or feel is a commen phenomenon known as "pluralistic ignorance."

Well, I can claim that the majority of Americans trust the scientists on this, not the government.

https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2019/11/25/u-s-public-views-on-climate-and-energy/

https://climatecommunication.yale.e...in-the-u-s-think-global-warming-is-happening/

http://www.theclimatechat.org/americans-on-climate-change

Scroll down on that one. There's a graphic showing that 29% of us are alarmed, 30% are concerned, 17% are cautious, 5% are disengaged, and 9% each are doubtful or dismissive. Does that sound like a vast majority to you?

As for doing something, just look at the rapidly growing market for electric cars and hybrids. Look at the growing number of Americans who are installing solar panels. Look at the growing number of communities erecting windmills. More of us recycle, compost, buy biodegradable goods when available, reuse shopping bags, and so forth.

You are not in the majority on this issue.

 

The rest of the world HAS moved on - what do you think the Paris agreement,,,,,,,,,oh! That’s right the great leader said it wasn’t good so you lot believed him ;roll;

 

Why is that your point? The rise is inevitable. Does not knowing exactly which year a coastal city or community will be under water change the need to build levees or relocate populations? Is it your opinion that we should do nothing until disaster is imminent? Where is the logic in your argument? Waiting for disaster to strike before taking action is far more expensive than preventive measures.

 

Your claim is bogus. I refer you to comment #315.

 

Of course it is.

So if I know more about molecular biology than you, does that mean I'm competent to diagnose a case of cancer?

lol

I don't know any such thing; but even if I did I'd be a damn fool to take a 97% consensus as a testament to undeniable truth.

No, that's an inference you find acceptable for whatever reason, not an ineluctable conclusion.

At some point after I start, which hasn't happened yet. You're welcome.

Professional astrologers know what they're talking about, and what they talk about correlates with observable reality about as well as what climatologists talk about.

Pilgrim, I wouldn't bet a plugged nickel that Trump said that.

 

Did you mean astronomers? Astrologers are consultants for the Democrat party, they also write the little messages in fortune cookies. It was one of those that inspired Adam Schiff and Nadler.

 

Show me a study where they asked scientists whether they believed human industrial activity is causing an acceleration in global temperatures. A study where they actually asked that question.

 

No, I meant what I said.

 

So just do it then. Are you really going to let eco-doomsday come to pass just because you couldn't get a few climate denying holdouts to join you? If you're of such a majority, just do it, and leave the rest of us out of it.

 

Not the Paris agreement, not any of it. We, the vast majority, are not going to do any of the things that the eco-doomsayers claim must be done right now to stave off eco-doom. Factor that in and then tell me when exactly is eco-doomsday.

 

Eco-doom is not "inevitable" on the scale of human life. It may be inevitable of a geological scale, but the climate is not changing so fast that we cannot accommodate it. Besides, the climate is always changing.