Climate deniers don't deny climate change any more

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Labeled "Climate 101" and, btw, predates K's critical paper. :cynic:
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    by D Koutsoyiannis · 2024 · Cited by 4 — The stable carbon isotopes 12 C and 13 C are present in the atmosphere, the oceans, and the terrestrial biosphere in percentages of 99% and 1%,
     
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    Already refuted. No climate realist has ever claimed that the Milankovitch cycles and ice-albedo feedback that cause ice ages and interglacials are similar to the variations in solar activity that cause century- to millennium-scale changes in climate like the MWP, LIA, and post-LIA warming, nor have they ever claimed that the Milankovitch cycles and ice-albedo feedback that cause ice ages and interglacials are similar to the ocean circulation cycle that has caused most of the warming since the mid-20th century cooling period.

    You continue to prove that you cannot offer anything but ignoratio elenchi fallacies.

    Sad.
     
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    SAD is your uneducated attempt to try to FAKE a response to this MIT 2024 article on atmospheric CO2 Causation from fossil fuels.
     
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    The MIT article is an elementary school-level primer for beginners ("Climate 101"). It need not be refuted because it has no standing. It is, nonetheless, rendered obsolete by K's paper.
     
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    I haven't disputed that use of fossil fuels is the main cause of increased CO2 over the last couple of centuries. The MIT article makes a quite different -- and entirely unsupported -- claim that CO2 from fossil fuels is the main cause of the increased surface temperature over the last couple of centuries.
     
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    Here’s the quote—-
    But today, the cause is reversed: by burning fossil fuels, we have put large amounts of CO2into the atmosphere very quickly, and that has spurred warming”.

    Once again you misrepresent the work and statements of renowned scientists. Does it say “last couple of centuries?”
     
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    OK, whatever time period you think they are referring to, they have not supported the claim.
     
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    Name one major scientific organization that will NOT make this same claim.
     
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    Organizations are controlled politically. Name one major scientific organization that actually consulted its members before making the claim.
     
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    Couldn’t do it, could you? You couldn’t name one organization.
     
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    BWAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!

    As they say in Japan, "It's mirror time!"
     
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    Once again - couldn’t do it!
     

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