CNN Poll shows 62% of Americans want Abortion Illegal!!!

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    So you were just making crap up again eh, Typical.
     
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    prometeus Banned

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    What happened, you are unable to even look things up? Here is a hint, try google.
     
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    so you have. Well tell us of your vast experience. I've no doubt that once in a great while something along the lines of a pregnancy potentially killing the mother...and isn't her CHOICE to determine whether to keep the pregnancy or not. Some had a problem with the story of the young woman who did just that. Some here considered her stupid for protecting the life of her unborn...something that i might add was instinctive to women. Obviously not any longer.

    What is opposed is the use of abortion as a birth control measure. There are MORE than enough of these. The situations you mention are a matter between a woman and her doctor. NOT the federal government and certainly not my tax dollars paying for it. Bottom line is i can't control what soulless baby killers do to their own bodies and the bodies of their girlfriends, wives and daughters, But i am not gonna pay for it.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously something is lacking in the birth control area, or we would not have half of all pregnancies in this country occurring UNPLANNED.


    It is good that you recognize you can't control abortion, but you are also in no position to judge the souls of aborting women. Medicaid pays (or is supposed to pay) for the abortions of medicaid recipients who are the victims of rape, incest, or threatened loss of life, and you WILL pay your fair share of taxes to support that.
     
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    The poll questions are too ambiguous to show true opinions of people about the issue. Other polls revealed that opinion about abortion hugely depends on the trimester of pregnancy.
    Pro-life / pro-choice is a false dichotomy, and "some circumstances" or "most circumstances" simply does not cut it.
     
  6. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    They are plenty clear, you just don't like what they say!

    At least be honest enough to admit that!!!!
     
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    yeah. You KNOW what's missing. RESPONSIBILITY for one, Maybe NOT having unprotected sex or how about this ABSTINENCE thing. When are we women going to learn that guys have NO respect for women who will boink them with no strings attached. Guys, regardless of what they claim, have NOT changed in that regard.

    but i'll thank you for one thing. You admitted that the goal IS federally supported on demand abortions.
     
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    Why should that be defined by your standards?

    Been holding candles much? Fact is that you really do not now how or why anyone is getting pregnant and I mean the circumstances not the mechanics.

    Yea, how about it? In case you did not realize or know, humans are sexual animals and your and others wishful thinking about abstinence had not resulted in much success.
     
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    I'd like to hope this is true. That just like slavery, this is just an ugly period in history where we have taken leave of our senses before remembering right and wrong again. We fixed slavery. It's time to fix abortion.

    Unfortunately, if history is any indicator, this will not be a permanent solution. Some time will pass, and then another group will become socially acceptable to dehumanize. We humans don't change that much. We rarely learn from our mistakes. We always have to find somebody to devalue; blacks, Jews, the unborn.....
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Abortion is a RESPONSIBLE solution to an unwanted pregnancy. Just FYI, half of those unplanned pregnancies happen to women who have used birth control. I never said anything about "the goal" being federally supported on demand abortions. Because of the Hyde Amendment, federal dollars only pay for abortions resulting from rape, incest, and threat of death to the pregnant woman, and it may be difficult for even those women to get an abortion paid for. Some states have slightly less stringent standards, but not much. I don't believe there IS such a thing as "on demand abortions", the more proper and accurate term would be "by request abortions." I don't think we women should be worrying about what causes men to respect us or not, the only thing we should be concerned about is our self-respect.
     
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    <<<Mod edit: Stop changing other people's posts>>>
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't there a rule on mucking about with another poster's message? If not, there should be. Stop changing my posts!!!
     
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    That is whaler for you, the embodiment of my signature, both quotes.
     
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    Was this the first time it dawned on you that the raging masses are generally undereducated and uninformed ?
     
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    You know, I support abortions, in a world full of crazy right wing conservatives, raveing on the internet, starting wars, having sex scandles and having mutiple divorces, and these are the ones incharge of our country!I really dont blame parents for not wanting children raised in a world like this, at this rate they will probably die before they are 25 in some half thought through war, or choke to death on the smog of "freedom" that hangs over America thanks to our hard earned Iraqi oil.
     
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    Dont forget about braindead people. After their brain stops functioning, we simply kill them and dismantle them for organs, even through they can biologically live on life support for another 25 years. Lets ban transplantations and clutter our hospitals with empty shells, so no human body gets killed!
     
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    How is this similar to a human being in a normal stage of development before congnitave thought takes place?
     
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    ...and women.

    The use of the government to force women to use their bodies against their will to keep embryos and fetuses alive denies women their right to personal body integrity and freedom (slavery). Every pregnancy permanently damages a woman's body and potentially threatens her health and life. Who should decide what risks are acceptable for her to take? Who should be her slave master?
     
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    Where did the govt force women to have sexual intercourse? I missed that one.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did I say that? Read again:

    The use of the government to force women to use their bodies against their will to keep embryos and fetuses alive denies women their right to personal body integrity and freedom (slavery). Every pregnancy permanently damages a woman's body and potentially threatens her health and life. Who should decide what risks are acceptable for her to take? Who should be her slave master?
     
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    Brandead human = biologicaly alive, but no mind present
    Embryonic human = biologicaly alive, but no mind present

    Seems pretty similar.
     
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    It was their choice to have sex, thus they need to accept the consequences of their own choices.
     
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    You say it yourself - they chose to have sex, not to become pregnant or have a child.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since when does the choice to engage in risky behavior preclude medical intervention for the consequences?
     
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    What kind of physical consequence does the man have to suffer?
     

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