PLEASE God take this line and start in Chicago, LA , Atlanta, Memphis and all the other welfare cities. Once you have solved all the black on black deaths then get back wiith the law abiding gun owners.
IF the gun grabbers wanted to be honest they would insist on a breakdown by race and location of all gun deaths and focus their laser like views on that.
Actually the only ones I see not getting upset about gang shootings are gun nuts who are dismissive of teen murder rates
You have great sight to see this from Australia... I will go with you get your information and knowledge of every day life here from extremely biased sources.
Been discussion gun control for about 10 years now - internet makes us neighbours - - - Updated - - - Been there - done that and guess what? They are all human - imagine that!!
Well, there's another lie. And anyone who is able to walk and chew gum at the same time can easily sort it out. If not, there's Google (which I use quite frequently). My experience has been that those who promote the sales of more guns and ammo as a "solution" are the worst of all, and I do believe there might ever be examples on this board. Understand, someone can tell you the truth which can lead you to a conclusion you might not make if you had more information. This is stock-in-trade for Fox and rant radio. You get about 1/2 the truth and if you accept it, you've just been conned. And cons are really, really good at it. So, grow up and wise up. No need. We have the ability to pass Constitutionally acceptable laws that can establish reasonable regulations. Like, can we BAN assault rifle look-alikes? Maybe, but we sure as hell can make it very difficult to obtain and own one. Well, no it isn't. You can pass laws that any gun sale must be registered through the local sheriff's office, or something like that. Upon completion, you'll get a notice that says you are entitled to own said weapon. If not, then you and the seller are liable for some severe criminal penalties. Won't 100% stop it, but I'll settle for 95%.
Colbert and half the guys in this thread are crazy. Nobody is "pretending" nothing is happening, and a lot of things have been "done" the only things being argued are mental health and gun control, this and other incidents are sun out like they are at a higher frequency then they actually are and remember this used to NOT happen as often as implies so don't you think other factors may be causing the problem, like decline in society, morals, advocating and supporting certain policies, "Social" issues, and advocating for long-term damaging desires and ethics? I mean the current law e have would work 10 years ago, 15 years ago 20 years ago. Maybe cause a few protests or two, there's a reason the only arguments being made are Gun control and Mental Health. These imaginary solutions for something that is NOT the problem is why nothing is being done. people supporting either aren't really tackling the issues that cause these individuals to be this way and both, but mostly the former of the two, don't consider long-term consequences, and at the moment is a very powerful political tool to gain support through ignorance.
No doubt some of them do. Too many others do not and, even when they supposedly do checks, the vendors disregard them. That's probably the best place for a felon or terrorist to obtain weapons, particularly in gun nutter states with few gun regs. I thought you knew that.
What imaginary wonderland do you live in or did your country get invaded by the libs? Not one has said anything about gang violence. Why talk about Chicago when you can race bait with Mike Brown to get a bunch of Blacks to think we are back 70 years and make them hate White people?
What a frickin dodge. BRAVO! Thank God they are not Martians cause Obama would try to get them welfare benefits. But like I wrote, gun grabbers don't want to be honest and actually focus on the sources of the VAST majority of gun related murders.
<sigh> This is what supposedly constitutes a rational argument on the right. No, we don't ban pressure cookers, cars, swimming pools or whatever else strikes your fancy about how some people died for one simple reason - their primary purpose is not to kill people, but something entirely benign. That some people die because of misuse, accident, or deliberately using them to inflict harm on others does not constitute a valid reason.
A Felon, terrorists, or Theif probably would gain the weapons the criminal way, which background checks won't stop. But it will stop Mr.Oswald from getting one while T-bone the thug goes and shoots up his classroom or Fa jahooda the Terrorist from West Island, or both, as he sits there or ends up lying down, wondering that if he had that weapon, he would have been able to do something.
Well, yes, you most certainly "stepped in it" since your response is that because we do not have a 100% solution we should do nothing and that's just damn dumb.
Thats actually a decent idea. - - - Updated - - - Its a severe penalty for "disregarding" the checks.. Perhaps instead if coming here and just insulting people you could go to a show or 2 and actually talk to people.
I gave my solution........ And it's NOT taking ALL the guns, except of course, gov. agency like BLM <bureau of land mag>, IRS <like they ever knock on doors> and EPA.....huh? But, of course, you haven't read MY solution.........have ya?
I just want to say, I am glad to see you say this. What he just described is what universal background checks are. I don't think we are all that far apart.
Why in Hell do the gun nuts constantly say this? I'm not in a gang and gangs don't pollute my area, they don't affect me or threaten me in any real way at all. I feel distressed at the murders they cause but it's abstract, like the way I feel about wars in (*)(*)(*)(*)holistan or disasters etc. These (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s shoot up malls, movies, any public area there is. They threaten me where I LIVE, thank you, gangs don't. What you're asking is like asking the people being flooded in the Carolinas now why aren't they worried about the people in Bangla Desh in past years or likely in the future. People are affected by what affects THEM, not by what is happening to people who might as well be living on the Moon.
The vast majority of gun owners are not murderous human debris like the Oregon shooter was yet, with a gun and NO ONE armed at the College, this one POS was able to KILL 9 innocent souls virtually unimpeded. I ask the question..If YOU were in the classroom would you opt for not having a gun? Guns are not going away and if you think so you are drinking Unicorn milk and tiptoeing through the daisies.
Why is it the NRA's fault what other people do? How many mass shooters were NRA member? Sensible laws? We already have laws against killing.
Speaking again from emotion... I dont even own a gun. Never fired one. I respect the 2nd. For this i get called a "Nut".... Progressives...../facepalm Gangs exist pretty much everywhere. They are responsible for far more crime and homicides then mass shootings and the stats back this up. So of course they should be discussed. Anyone capable of rational thought instead of insane rambling should see this.
Was Mercer on medication? Was Mercer seeing a therapist? Was Mercer ever admitted for psychiatric help? Has Mercer's parents and/or friends said he was a little strange and that his behavior worried them? As far as I know the answer to all these questions is "no". There was no indication that Mercer was mentally ill. So, how would any new laws have stopped this?
Background checks are conducted by the Federal government via the NICS. All FFL dealers in every state have to abide by those checks. Please know what the hell you are talking about before you comment.