Complete failure of Gun Control

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    LOL! Well, I have pointed out that the NYT = MSM = Fake News. So, you have a point. ;-)
     
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    Which obviously has nothing to do with gun control. The NYC you lived in is bankrupt and dying. Crime declines in "Ghost towns".

    "In the physical universe, the stores are closed, the lights are off, and the windows are plastered with for-lease signs. Long stretches of famous thoroughfares—like Bleecker Street in the West Village and Fifth Avenue in the East 40s—are filled with vacant storefronts. Their dark windows serve as daytime mirrors for rich pedestrians."
    CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/
     
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    Dude that is hilarious
     
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    LOL! The you must finally be ready to repeat after me: The NYT = Fake News. Right? ;-)

    "In Jane Jacobs’s famous vision of New York, the city ideally served as a playful laboratory, which nursed new firms and ideas and exported its blessedly strange culture to the world. Today’s New York is the opposite: a net importer of the un-weird, so desperate to bring in national chains to pay exorbitant leases that landlords are willing to sit on barren blocks."
    CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/
     
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    Let me get this straight. NYC is NOT a thriving metropolis .....and it's because of gun control.

    My God that is hilarious
     
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    Did the article mention "gun control"? Read more carefully. ;-)
     
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    This is a gun control forum.

    I think you are lost. Lol
     
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    No, Vegas, this is a "Political Forum". At least for most of us.

    Now, focus: According to the New York Times NYC has become a Rich Ghost Town. How can gun control schemes have an impact on a DP government crafted Ghost Town for the rich?

    Or is it your position that the NYT knows nothing about NYC? ;-)
     
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    No you are right. Its a ghost town. I think they are down to 8 million people.....the most in any city in America.

    But its a ghost town....complete with tumbleweeds. LOL
     
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    I did not find that in the NYT article I cited for you. I did find this:

    "What happens when cities become too expensive to afford any semblance of that boisterous diversity? The author E. B. White called New York an assembly of “tiny neighborhood units.” But the 2018 landlord waiting game is denuding New York of its particularity and turning the city into a high-density simulacrum of the American suburb. The West Village landlords hoping to lease their spaces to national chains are turning one of America’s most famous neighborhoods into a labyrinthine strip mall. Their strategy bodes the disappearance of those quirky restaurants, curious antique shops, and any coffee shops that aren’t publicly traded on the NYSE."
    CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/
     
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    I don't even know what your point is? LOL
     
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    That gun control does not lower gun crime. How could it?
     
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    Because it does in NYC. LOL They have very low gun crime per capita
     
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    You like the NY Times.....right? LOL

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/27/nyregion/new-york-city-crime-2017.html

    In fact, crime has fallen in New York City in each of the major felony categories — murder and manslaughter, rape, assault, robbery, burglary, grand larceny, and car thefts — to a total of 94,806 as of Sunday, well below the previous record low of 101,716 set last year.

    If the trend holds just a few more days, this year’s homicide total will be under the city’s previous low of 333 in 2014, and crime will have declined for 27 straight years, to levels that police officials have said are the lowest since the 1950s. The numbers, when taken together, portray a city of 8.5 million people growing safer even as the police, under Mayor Bill de Blasio, use less deadly force, make fewer arrests and scale back controversial practices like stopping and frisking thousands of people on the streets.
     
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    There is obviously no connection. Guns can be easily obtained wherever anyone wants them. They become far more valuable for criminal predators once they are officially banned.

    NYC is being turned into a "suburb" for the rich - a "labyrinthine strip mall."

    "But the 2018 landlord waiting game is denuding New York of its particularity and turning the city into a high-density simulacrum of the American suburb. The West Village landlords hoping to lease their spaces to national chains are turning one of America’s most famous neighborhoods into a labyrinthine strip mall."
    CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/

    Strip malls and rich suburbs experience lower crime. Hardly a surprise.
     
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    You must have missed this. How about now?

    In fact, crime has fallen in New York City in each of the major felony categories — murder and manslaughter, rape, assault, robbery, burglary, grand larceny, and car thefts — to a total of 94,806 as of Sunday, well below the previous record low of 101,716 set last year.

    If the trend holds just a few more days, this year’s homicide total will be under the city’s previous low of 333 in 2014, and crime will have declined for 27 straight years, to levels that police officials have said are the lowest since the 1950s. The numbers, when taken together, portray a city of 8.5 million people growing safer even as the police, under Mayor Bill de Blasio, use less deadly force, make fewer arrests and scale back controversial practices like stopping and frisking thousands of people on the streets.
     
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    Again, NYC was being turned into a "suburb" for the rich - a "labyrinthine strip mall" according to the NYT. Why do you think people flee to the rich suburbs - if they can? Gun control? ;-)

    CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/
     
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    LOL! Please show the correlation to gun control?
     
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    It must be just a coincidence that the safest large city in America also has strict gun control. Just a GIANT coincidence. LOL
     
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    NYC has been transformed into rich suburb according to the NYT. A suburb where the people who can still afford to live there shop online because all the shops are being boarded up even as the rich build a new skyscraper near Wall Street. Progress?

    "Walking around the Upper East Side, where I live, I find it striking how many of the establishments still standing among the many darkened windows are hair salons, nail salons, facial salons, eyebrow places, and restaurants. What’s the one thing they have in common? You won’t find their services on Amazon.

    The internet won’t cut my hair, and not even the most homesick midwesterner goes online to order a deep dish to be delivered from Chicago to New York. Online shopping has digitized a particular kind of business—mostly durable, nonperishable, and tradable goods—that one used to seek out in department stores or similar establishments. Their disappearance has opened up huge swaths of real estate."
    CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/
     
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    NYC has always had strict gun control. It never had any impact on crime - other than encouraging more of it. That is how strict gun control works.

    Moving to the suburbs was always a good way to escape crime. The DP leaders of NYC have apparently decided to turn the city into a suburb.
    It does not seem to be making the old New Yorkers at the NYT as happy as it makes you, but then you no longer live there - right? ;-)
     
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    27 straight years of declining crime.....my god what an incredible success story for such a big, thriving diverse city.....GUN CONTROL WORKS
     
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