Condoleezza Rice for President OF THE EUROPEAN UNION!

Where is the option:

They deserve each other?

 

True, though Condi was the US National Security Advisor from 2001 to 2005 during the 1st President Bush term and advised the President on the liberation of Iraq.

However, in the Bush first term when others had proper executive authority in the Bush administration, not just Powell but also Rumsfeld, the management of the Iraq situation after the invasion was not the best and it was only with the promotion of Condi in the Bush second term when she gained more authority to make more of a success of the liberation that it started to come right, as mentioned in this interview with British TV.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H19sMQgHE7Y"]Condoleezza Rice Empower women Protect innocents $ bail-out[/ame]

So Condi was Secretary of State at the time of the hanging of Saddam Hussein and she was the one who gave the order to transfer him to Iraqi custody shortly before his execution.

Condi's boots walked all over Saddam as shown in the video I posted in post 10 of this topic.

It was clear that Condi knew what the Iraqi government needed to do and pushed them in the right direction. Whereas Rumsfeld and the Pentagon generals didn't have a clue.

With Condi pushing you, you don't want to say "no" in case she beats your brains out.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eby35ryuSs"]Tigress Condi. Should we beat Maliki's brains out?[/ame]

"Colin Powell would be better" in what way?

More popular with the troops?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsaqa4mgZwM"]Condoleezza Rice with her Band of Brothers[/ame]

Pumps more iron?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flz3y9KHFoc"]Condi exercise video[/ame]

There is NOBODY better than Condi.

I can understand if you Americans want to have Condi for your own president and give us Europeans 2nd best Colin Powell. Thanks but no thanks.

 

Well that's what some were saying about Canadian Foreign minister Peter MacKay and Condoleezza Rice. Eh?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmvAjPqyqZg"]WAR SEX[/ame]

MacKay is of course from Nova Scotia and there is something about Condi that appeals to some Scots, both sides of the pond, it seems.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzkNkuKC4x4"]Condi - My Love[/ame]

Well of course MacKay must be the better man because Condi has never gone on a date with this Scottish suitor.

Condi did look glum though when Canada changed your foreign minister.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdkAoHUNtfQ"]Condi's S.O.S. to Canada. What happened to our love?[/ame]

 

Hmm. That last video "Condi's S.O.S. to Canada" seems to be on strike on YouTube at the moment. Gremlins. I have made it available to play from my website.

[ame="http://scot.extroverthost.com/sos.wmv"]Condi's S.O.S. to Canada. What happened to our love?[/ame]

 

Please Peter: no mean to offense but... just use the (*)(*)(*)(*) google for your needs and leave us (Europeans) alone.


http://tinyurl.com/ye6y8rh

 

I am Scottish, living in Scotland and Scotland is geographically part of Europe and we Scots are represented by Members of the European Parliament.

So I don't think you, out of the two of us, are the only one to make pleas on behalf of us Europeans.

I am a European and I want Condoleezza Rice as my president. You don't - fair enough, then vote against. You don't need to read this topic and that will leave you out of this debate.

I think that argument has been tried with Al Qaeda terrorists but the reply seems to be along the lines of that when ...

... then they will leave us alone, (after chopping our heads off, obviously).

Well I would have guessed you were Swiss, or a national of another neutral country. Typically Italians are more courageous and more willing to mix it with fascists, either for or against.

Do you also ask other Italians to leave you alone and stop asking you to take sides regarding trivial matters such as life, death and freedom?

 

Iraq has been mentioned a lot in this topic which is right for a topic proposing Condoleezza Rice for president.

No mention of Iraq however is complete without reference to the Iraq X-file.

I have today posted in the PoliticalForum.com Intelligence forum regarding the Iraq X-file, here.

The Iraq X-file. Terrorist & insurgent proxies of hostile Arab kingdoms etc

When nominating and electing a president, a key attribute is the candidate ought to be most capable of understanding the implications of the Iraq X-file and be ready to adjust policy accordingly.

I estimate that Condi has the brains necessary to understand Iraq X-file type intelligence whereas many other candidates could not.

 

Pffff... please close down this thread... it's an insult to intelligence.

 

Discussing the democratic alternatives to the imposed European Union President is the legitimate bread and butter of politics.

Closing down debate and expecting people to submit to the rule of unelected officials is an insult to those free nations who fought for their freedom at a great cost.

Now I understand that in the tradition of the King of Belgium, the King of the newly imposed European Union president former Belgian Prime Minister van Rompuy may think that 3 weeks (*) is quite long enough to fight for freedom and after that one ought to accept an imposed dictatorship.

Well the King of Belgium may hope that we would behave as his loyal subjects but we Europeans will not.

Not after 3 weeks and not after 30 years. There will be no European surrender to an imposed EU president nor any constitution he presides over.

Britons simply do not surrender willingly and you can't make your EU president or the EU constitution stick by suppressing debate. Closing down debate will endanger the whole EU project - not something that I think you really want to do, is it?

* Well let's be generous - 18 days is nearly 3 weeks!

 

Then you should put real efforts to support a Scottish (or another European) person that represent your ideals.
In my country, many (European elections) voted for the clown Berlusconi. A little slice of Italian tainted by the national media, but a hard core capable of giving sufficient. And today (we Italians) in Europe we are represented on this bandwagon of clowns called PDL (which is not a right-winged party, but a Berlusconi's party).

But many of us have also voted quality people, people who could afford to appear fleetingly in the national media.

These people had little voice, but our ears were much more careful. Luigi de Magistris has been the second most voted Italian politician in European elections (after Berlusconi), now he's the best part we was able offer to European Parliament.


What would happend if we did just dream to bring Bush/Obama in our european government: all our Italian representative (in even in Europe) was assigned to the pathetic Berlusconi's company.


Do not expect to see the excellence of Scottish politics represented on television: find among your people the better hidden, not what you are shown on television. Do not expect to see the excellence of Scottish politics represented on television: find among your people the better hidden, not what you are shown on television. From your support to those who, in your country, really is the best.

Only this can improve the whole EU: the real ideals of yours, from your country... not American/European/Asian television advertising.

 

Your link is not to an interview with British or American television or with an English translation that I could understand.

Ylon, when I posted a link to an Italian language television interview of Condoleezza Rice you did not quote my link or refer to that interview, whereas you did quote my later post 53 (post 53 which was not even addressed to you Ylon but to our Canadian colleague Beevee) though you did reply to my post 56 which was addressed to you. This worries me that you may not even have seen my post 48.

Did you see my post 48, Ylon? I do not wish to repeat myself but I must ask you why you have ignored this interview?

If you wish to nominate a candidate for President of the European Union then an interview in English would be most helpful. I would consider serious alternative nominations for European President to be on topic in this Condoleezza Rice for President OF THE EUROPEAN UNION! topic thread.

Even if I do not agree with your nomination for European President perhaps there is, I think, a need for a vice-President of the European Union especially if Condoleezza Rice becomes president of both the European Union and the United States. Then a vice-President of the European Union who is always here in Europe with us and not spending a lot of time in the USA would be essential I believe.

If we can find a good vice president of the European Union this would increase our chances that Condi would stay on as president of the European Union even if she is elected President of the USA.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Bs_OgT7Ag"]Pavarotti serenades Condi dressed in white.[/ame]

 

I did just try to say you better put efforts (and support) the politician that are already in your country, and bring them to European court.



I've no alternative to suggest you. You're entitled to bring the best you can do..this is the democracy way.

I know the best and the worst my country bring in the European Parliament... my only suggest is just stop dreaming: realize which people are effectively improve or decline your society (in European scenario).


Dreaming about some sort of foreign "Queen Arthur of Camelot" to come won't help you at all (the thing this thread is all about)

 

Ylon, I still do not know if you watched the interview with Italian television of Condoleezza Rice linked to in my previous post. Did you watch that interview?

Perhaps I can break the question down into segments for you.

Firstly did you click this link?

Video Rai.TV - Che Tempo Che Fa - Condoleezza Rice. Condoleezza Rice in esclusiva, rilascia la prima intervista televisiva in Italia...

Secondy did you reach the Rai.TV website OK?

Did you see that there was a video interview of Condoleezza Rice to watch there?

Did you start to watch the video?

Did you watch it to the end?

Do you have any comments to make about this video?

Are you having langauge difficulties understanding my question, or do you not wish to answer it?

 

Peter... I'd stop learn about life from TV long time ago.

You had already my reply:
"Dreaming about some sort of foreign "Queen Arthur of Camelot" to come won't help you at all (the thing this thread is all about)"


If you fail to read/compile it.. I don't see why I should put even little efforts to keep reading you.


I'd see the video and did see only personal propaganda. I am not say that Condoleezza is bad or something like that, I am just say that Europe deserve something more that a good TV skills




I can leave you to your monologue now. I've reply to you already knowing you're unable to realize a single word of what I've written.

 

I am reading you Ylon. Loud and clear. Legends and dreams of great leaders long dead do help, they help a lot. They keep hope alive and that is most important.

I have searched my brain to find every superlative comparison I can borrow to make my point that Condi is the best leader we have and we should promote her to the top job. This is just the latest.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKntGxcxuQs"]Condoleezza Rice with Excalibur, King Arthur's sword, at long last![/ame]

Ylon I am proposing Rice for President not myself therefore it was right for me to draw to your attention what she had said and had been accurately translated into Italian.

My translations use an automatic translator and no doubt much of the meaning is lost.

Auto-translated into Italian.

 

mmmm... this thread is still going on then?
No, serious...is this ment to be joke or is it for real, because I can recommend this fine institution for the insain. No, no, no just joking, right?

Sorry, but you are ill-informed of my country's history and also that of your own (I mean the UK, I know Scotland is a country too though).
We only became independent in 1830 if we would be a "neutral country", and we were put under military protection of the UK. We had are own army, but it would be ridicilous to think that the Belgians couls stand up against the French or the Prussian armies.
Also our King during that time was Leopold I (Saksen-Coburg - does it ring a bell?) and he was the uncle of Queen Victoria. It was he who arranged the British Queen to meet with her husband (a nephew of Leopold I), and since then Belgian and British monarchies are related.

In WOI we never surrendered, our King and Queen were on the frontline - our King was not fighting but he was in the trenches with the troops and our Queen functioned a full nurse in various fieldhospitals.
As for WOII- we were still under protection of the British, we stood up to the Germans for 18 days with a very small army - the Dutch gave up after 3.
Anyway - together with the Belgian capitulation the British left our country in large numbers at the ports of Duinkerke, De Panne, Nieuwpoort and Oostende.
So our failure is, in fact, your country's failure too.

I don't know, but is the British PM chosen directly by the public? I'm just wondering.

But what I really wanted to say dear sir, is that Baroness Ashton has a far more powerful post than Van Rompuy. She's in office for 5 years, mister Van Rompuy only 2,5, he also endured election in 2007. He was elected regular MP but he didn't win them 'cause he wasn't the frontrunner of his partie (the party won with an other frontman); our current PM was (who replaced him again after he was elected EU president), but that's a story that will take me ages to explain properly. Ashton NEVER faced any election during her WHOLE life - she came way tumbeling down from the House of Lords, at least Van Rompuy has some democratic aurora, so Belgians (or Flemings) really don't need to take lessons in democracy from the Brits.

And actually who cares? They all are under control by the European Parliament anyway.

 

The fate of this thread is in the hands of the moderators.

No I am not joking. Even if Condi doesn't want the job of European Union President it is useful to argue that we Europeans should search the world for someone of her quality to lead us. If nothing else, her leadership sets us Europeans a useful benchmark, a standard, to compare candidates for European President to.

This thread can be a very serious consideration of alternative candidates for EU president and vice-president and if no-one here can think of a better alternative than Condoleezza Rice then I think I have won my argument.

I particularly object to jokes questioning people's sanity in a political or legal debate because of the mistreatment of imprisonment and terrorism of inappropriate psychiatric treatment I have suffered at the hands of the UK royalist, fascist police state.

Arrogant and tyrannical judges. Beware of perverted judges and psychiatrists

Yes tell us about your country's history and how the "King of Belgians" protects Belgian children from murdering paedophiles such as Marc Dutroux.

BBC News | Europe | Belgian paedophile report says police were inept

Convince us Europeans if you can to trust the safety of Europe's children to a man, Rompuy who trusts the King of Belgium to protect Belgium's children.

Thank you for recognising the independence of Scotland. I trust you will help me mobilise Europeans against the foe of Scots, Queen Elizabeth who has imposed herself as head of state of Scotland?

One of the first acts of a good European President I would like to see would be to issue an arrest warrant for Queen Elizabeth, on various charges such as false imprisonment all the way up to murder, or to impose a ban and exile on Queen Elizabeth and her immediate family from Europe.

What was ridiculous was the European monarchs fighting for their rights when Europeans needed republics fighting for the people's rights.

Why do you write "WOI"? World War one, is shortened to "WW1" or "WWI".

The Danish monarch surrendered after 2 hours I believe. Next to that, 18 days looks good but you need to consider the fate of those Belgians who died at the hands of the Nazi police state AFTER the Belgian King surrendered and whether they would not have preferred a longer war.

My countries, Scotland and Britain, were not then and are not now free countries. We are oppressed and enslaved by the United Kingdom state.

So we Scots and Britons do what we can to defend ourselves and others but we are hampered at every turn of events by the UK and its stupid monarch and witless governments.

Our nations sometimes succeed against the odds whereas the UK, as a kingdom, by definition a failure to become a republic, fails. So it can be no surprise that the UK and the British Expeditionary Force failed to defend Europe in 1940.

The correct analysis of World War 2 is that there was a large amount of support from European royalty to Franco, Hitler, Mussolini etc. because the royalists wanted the dictators to eliminate democratic republicans.

European republicans did then and we do now pose a threat to the rule of monarchs in Europe.

This is a very important point in European politics so I will attempt to post some videos in my next post about the treason against Britons of the UK monarch Edward VIII who was a Nazi sympathizer. After I have posted those videos I intend to continue my reply to the rest of your post.

 

As promised, here I am attempting to post embedded videos of the 3-video playlist -

"The UK's Nazi King Edward VIII, Duke of Windsor: Traitor & Enemy of Britain"

The posting of these videos is complicated somewhat by the fact that YouTube have decided to block the viewing of these videos in Britain (and possibly elsewhere but certainly in Britain). Luckily, because of the superior features of this forum, I may be able to embed videos hosted on my website - so if I post both versions, there is good chance that most forum viewers ought to be able to view the videos from one or other of the sources.

Hosted on YouTube - Britons just see a message along the lines of "Content blocked in your country".

Part 1
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--goH-lhRNY"]YouTube- The UK's Nazi King Edward VIII, Duke of Windsor: Traitor & Enemy of Britain. (Part 1)[/ame]

Part 2
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DON0o4XfVZI"]YouTube- The UK's Nazi King Edward VIII, Duke of Windsor: Traitor & Enemy of Britain. (Part 2)[/ame]

Part 3
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNkwA_nAArk"]YouTube- The UK's Nazi King Edward VIII, Duke of Windsor: Traitor & Enemy of Britain. (Part 3)[/ame]

Hosted on Peter Dow's website

Part 1
[ame]http://scot.extroverthost.com/forum/media/uksnaziking1.wmv[/ame]

Part 2
[ame]http://scot.extroverthost.com/forum/media/uksnaziking2.wmv[/ame]

Part 3
[ame]http://scot.extroverthost.com/forum/media/uksnaziking3.wmv[/ame]

Queen Elizabeth of course could not choose her own uncle but she did choose whom to marry - Prince Philip, whose sister married a Nazi SS Colonel.



So the rapid surrender of European monarchies to the Nazis is not so much "brave resistance against overwhelming odds" but "keeping up appearances - pretending that surrender to Nazi occupation is anything but part of the royalist secret plan to eliminate the enemies of monarchy" when you realise that the royals and the Nazis were in bed with each other all along.

Wikipedia: Prince Christoph of Hesse

Wikipedia: Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. Marriage

American Almanac: The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor

Aftermath News: The Nazi relative that the Royals disowned

The Daily Express: PRINCE PHILIP AND THE NAZIS

The Royals and the Reich. The Princes von Hessen in Nazi Germany by Jonathan Petropoulos



Jonathan Petropoulos, in his book "Royals and the Reich" reviews the case that the Duke of Windsor was a traitor and an agent for Nazi Germany which was made by Martin Allen in his book "Hidden Agenda. How the Duke of Windsor Betrayed the Allies".

 

No. The United Kingdom Prime Minister (not really "British" more often "anti-British") is chosen by the monarch (on the advice of her privy council no doubt) and would be politically limited to a choice between those who could carry the confidence of the House of Commons. A vote of no confidence of the House of Commons in a PM would most likely prove terminal eventually, though the Canadian Prime Minister may have survived such a prospect because of the intervention of the Queen's Governor General in proroguing the Canadian Parliament in 2008/9.

Neither the Canadian nor the Australian parliament have ever chopped off the head of a King of England whereas the Westminster parliament has (of King Charles I) so perhaps the royalists are more confident in peripheral parts of the realm? Such matters are somewhat unpredictable in advance because of the nature of the UK's Constitution from hell.

Well let us Europeans agree to sack them both - Rompuy and Ashton - and request more democratically elected presidents.

I would argue for their dismissal by the European parliament (though I would wish a direct election of Europeans to choose a EU President, I think the EU parliament is well within its rights to dismiss an EU President) backed up if necessary by a military campaign against European monarchs, such as the King of Belgium to whom Rompuy is loyal and the monarch of the UK to whom Baroness Ashton is loyal.

Whether we have to shoot the dogs - Rompuy and Ashton - rather than shoot the dogs' masters, their monarchs, is a question for debate over time. Right now, these dogs are new rulers and I am not angry enough against them personally yet to want them dead though if they were to fall under a bus I would shed no tears for these dogs, whereas I would call for the assassination of Queen Elizabeth for many heartfelt reasons and the Queen imposing her lackey Ashton upon Europe would be just the latest and least of those reasons to want the Queen dead and gone.

Well I suggest to you that the people of Belgium care what happens to their children when they are at risk under royalist rule.

Leaving matters to parliaments is not wise because parliamentarians can be bribed or intimidated to look the other way or may simply be poor leaders. If we wish to be free then we Europeans ourselves have duties to assert and to defend our democratic rights, such as to elect our presidents and not have them imposed upon us.

 

Sorry... I really thaught you were joking about Condie - because legally it has to be someone that is a European Head of State and/or governement leader, who is democratically elected in a memberstate of the EU.

My sincere apologies... I really thought you were joking so I thought I would have joked back.

Sorry, but this is just lame. I read the article you linked and I don't understand how you drag the Belgian king in all of this.
Albert I - the King - has almost no political power in real life.

No, I will not. Not because I have no sympathy for your cause, because we here in Flanders face some what the same with our struggle against the very excistance of the Federal state of Belgium. But because it's the struggle of the Scots - not from anybody else.

My mother tongue is Dutch; 'World War I' in Dutch is 'Wereldoorlog I', therefore WOI - my bad.

Please don't underestimate the Belgians and the Flemish people. I'm not chauvinistic about my country at all - but one thing can be said: we are very resentful. This is not only showed in our languagistic skills, most of us speak at least Dutch, French and English - but most of the time we can add German to that list and another southern language (Portugese, Italian or Spanish) and in our historical past. Between the centuries we were occupied by the French, the Spanish, the Austrians, the Dutch and the Germans. Not only that - our lands were often used as the battlefield of Europe by large nations like the UK, France and Germany to fight their wars on our soils.
During WW1 we never capitulated, but a large portion of Belgium was occupied by the Imperial German forces. We were one of the few nations that had to endure that in that period.
So, during WWII we had some experience how to deal with the German occupation. Belgium also was the only country in all of occupied Europe were the local population made an (successful) attempt to stop a train heading for concentrationcamps.

Despite my young age I know my history very well - from since I'm a child through university my average markings for history are between 95-100%. I only have to see a date and I'll remember it, and only need to hear a story once and I'll remember it. I knew all of that (you didn't had to post the vids, haha).
I agree on most what you say in some sort.
But what you're saying is not completly true. There's a difference between facism and nazism. Mussolini was a well liked guy throughout Europe, also the UK, in Conservative circles because his policies provided economic growth and social stabilty (I mean conservatism in the traditional European continental mindset, in which society is seen as a living organism).

Also your claim that European monarchs wanting the dictators to eliminate republicans is not true. Facism came to rise in two republics: Italy and Germany. Also the Facistic regims were a direct threat for monarchies, there only was room for one leader/Führer in their ideology and that was Mussolini or Hitler. Even God was banned - and Christmas time was a very hard time f.e. Nazi-Germany.
It was out of the question that the birth of a Jewish child would be celebrated (google: How the Nazis stole Christmas).

 

British MEP Farage ridicules EU President Rompuy of Belgium. Peter Dow agrees. (YouTube)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=520H_uHEv5I"]YouTube- British MEP Farage ridicules EU President Rompuy of Belgium. Peter Dow agrees.[/ame]

BBC: Tirade against 'damp rag' EU president shocks MEPs

Well thank you Nigel Farage for speaking out in such forthright terms about some of the failings of this appointed president of the E.U. council imposed on the people of Europe as some sort of political president. We should not accept this imposition. As Nigel says, the British people don't want him and certainly we Scots don't want him.


Rompuy - lackey of the genocidal Belgian monarchy

Herman von Rompuy, a former Belgian minister, is nothing but a lackey of King Albert of Belgium who people should be told is the Great Grandnephew of King Leopold II of Belgium whose forces committed crimes against humanity in Africa in the King's so-called 'Congo Free State', crimes of slavery and genocide against the African tribes-people there, with millions of Africans exterminated at the hands of the King of Belgium's men, as was exposed in the book 'The Crime of the Congo' by my fellow Scot, Arthur Conan Doyle, best known for his Sherlock Holmes stories. So it is elementary my dear Farage that one should never trust one of the King of Belgium's men.

So if we need a European President but certainly Rompuy is no use so then let's have a general election of ALL of the people of Europe to elect our president and maybe we'll elect someone as good or even better than President Obama, someone who would be worth the salary.

I'd like to propose my favourite world leader Condoleezza Rice as the candidate for President of the European Union and since we can happily have Americans working in Europe then why not elect the best American Condi Rice to work here in Europe some of the time as our European president and no doubt she can suggest a good vice president to elect to stand in for her here while she is out of Europe on other important world leadership duties.

 

Would rather see Merkel or Sarkozy to be fair.

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzfo1B4L5ek"]God Bless Belgium[/ame]

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZtLJBwFwOE"]Condoleezza Rice und deutsche Wiedervereinigung / and German reunification (YouTube)[/ame]
Condoleezza Rice und deutsche Wiedervereinigung / and German reunification (YouTube)



Condoleezza Rice at the Malta Summit with USA. President George H. W. Bush and USSR General Secretary Mikhail S. Gorbachev in December 1989, on board the Soviet cruise ship Maxim Gorky, Marsaxlokk Harbour, Malta.


Condoleezza Rice attends for the signing of The Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany in Moscow, USSR, on 12 September 1990, that paved the way for German reunification on 3 October 1990.

In this video of excerpts from the German film of the year 2000, "Deutschlandspiel" Condoleezza Rice narrates, dubbed into German, the history of the Malta Summit and the subsequent momentous meetings and agreements which sealed the formal reunification of Germany and the end of the cold war between East and West.

It would be nice to have this video in English for English speakers to enjoy.

I believe that the "Deutschlandspiel" DVD comes with an English-language subtitles option but I mean it would be nice to have something like this video in all English audio with Condoleezza Rice's voice heard and Gorbachev's voice dubbed-over in English and with the dramatisations played or dubbed-over by English-speaking actors/actresses and the additional commentary in spoken English.

Maybe there is an American movie or a British film with that in it already but it hasn't been uploaded to the web as yet? If not it would be a nice movie for someone to make.

Such video would obviously be an important chapter in a "The Condoleezza Rice Story" movie biography whenever Holywood gets round to that.

Well here's hoping!

 

If you look carefully, you can see her in the background here.