Condoleezza Rice for President OF THE EUROPEAN UNION!

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Condoleezza Rice for President OF THE EUROPEAN UNION?

  1. Yes! Salute President Condi - she is worth 10 times what they pay Obama!

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  2. No I really miss Saddam Hussein. Shame on Condi for liberating Iraq.

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  1. Peter Dow

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    BBC: German party cool on Blair for EU
    Condoleezza Rice for President of the European Union.
    Condoleezza Rice, the former US Secretary of State under President Bush would have made a great president of the USA and still may do, perhaps if she runs in 2012 but until then we Europeans should give Condi a wee shot of being President of Europe. If she is elected US president, she can decide if she wants to be president of both the EU and the USA or just the USA.

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFDfDEa0kJM"]Condi doesn't have a wooden heart (YouTube)[/ame]

    See pictures of Condi with the top European leaders in message 2047 of Rice for President Yahoo Group.

    Discussion point -
    Can an American become the President of Europe?

    Why not?

    Europe does not have closed borders - no-one has set up a new iron curtain have they? People come from all over the world to study and to work in Europe. I have Indians living to my left, right and above me and most welcome they are.

    If you have skills anywhere in the world, Europe has a job for you - this is true in the private and public sectors, so what's the problem?

    It would be stupid and self-harming not to hire the best in the world for Europe's MOST important job, president of the EU and Condi is the best, so hire her.

    How hard can it be to make Rice a citizen of a EU member country if that was the rule? After they captured him in WW2, the Americans made Wernher von Braun the German rocket scientist (who was working for Hitler trying to bomb us all to hell) an American citizen didn't they, and so got to the moon? So what matters is if the foreigner has the skills that your union needs.

    Citizenships can be granted if required I suppose.

    There is supposed to be a new EU constitution - I think they call it "the Lisbon Treaty" or something. Has anyone here read it? I have not but The Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union looks good and I didn't see anything in there about "Americans not welcome".

    I know the US constitution says you need to have been born in the USA to become president, though not to be elected a state governor. Well Europe should improve upon that rule.
     
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    :disbelief: you can't claim a fair poll when the two options are clearly biased and designed to influence votes.
     
  3. Agent Zero

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    Where's the "No, she isn't even European" option?
     
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    He didn't include it cause it wouldnt get him the response he wants
     
  5. Peter Dow

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    I admit it is a campaigning poll, supportive of Rice.

    You could I trust run a poll which supported your candidate or which opposed Rice - I may have a view about your poll but I would support your right to run your own poll in a fair forum. It is fair if we all get to run our own polls.

    Unfair? If you think that poll is unfair you should have a look at the "fairness" of the non-election for head of state of Britain or Scotland.

    The Queen is not elected by the people nor by the elected representatives of the people - she is just there - imposed by the kingdom.

    We get imposed upon us Queen Elizabeth as monarch and no election for president and no constitutional rights whatsoever in this kingdom.

    The only thing which is ever fair in countries without democracy is when a monarch or dictator swings on a rope like Saddam Hussein did. (Chopping heads off is quite fair too)

    This forum WOULD be fair to us both, if I get to run my polls and you get to run your polls. I am not a moderator here so I cannot guarantee fairness in this forum but I can certainly wish you fair treatment of your polls and hope for fair treatment of my polls.

    So far you have been allowed to express your view of the poll - fair enough. It is fair you are allowed to express your view - it would be unfair if polls you disapprove of were deleted.
     
  6. Peter Dow

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    Well I have addressed that point that Rice is an American and not a European (right now anyway) in my discussion point in my original post. I invite you to discuss the points I made there.
     
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    Peter Dow has been in love with Ms Rice for years now. He'll be looking for a European to be the next President of the USA next.
     
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    True and it is fair to declare my interest there. There is no secret about that because I have declared my love on my own website.

    Peter Dow loves Condi Rice

    However, I am not in any kind of personal relationship with Rice (no surprise there then :mrgreen:) so I am not obliged to support "Rice-as-my-partner" for President, of Europe, of America or of anywhere.

    Unlike when Bill Clinton supported his wife for US President, I am not compromised. It is not a case of "Oh he would say that".

    We all love many people but serious people are highly selective about whom they recommend for president and I am highly selective.

    What part of
    don't you understand? :bored:

    The constitutional restriction on who gets to be US President disadvantages only the Americans if anyone. Therefore, although I might "tut, tut" that part of the constitution as I might other parts, I would leave campaigning for change to others.

    But actually I am supporting Condoleezza Rice for US President and have done for years and I am the group owner of Rice for President Yahoo Group. Shame you didn't mention that.

    What makes you think I would be looking for a European to become the next US president? I support Rice and even if she becomes "a European" for becoming president of the EU purposes she would still remain an American by birth and eligible to be elected US President under the constitution.

    Rice already has two continents to her self-description "African American". So why not add a third continent and make that "African, American & European" or something?

    So it is strange that you are thinking that I might be looking to change the US Constitution when my complaint about it is purely theoretical.

    It is not like the Russian Constitution which apparently we are told disallows Russian criminals being extradited abroad to stand trial for crimes they have committed abroad. For example, and urgently, UK authorities have requested the extradition of Lugovoy for the murder of Litvinenko in London.

    In the case of the Russian Constitution yes I am looking for a change there to permit murderers to face justice. I have no faith in UK justice so I am also looking for changes there (revolution to overthrow the kingdom and establish republics for the British nations, such as the Scots) so it is not as if I am 100% behind the UK state and 100% against the Russian state or anything . No I am more balanced than that.
     
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    yes please :aww:
    luv those Kinda'sleeazzy Klingon Boots!
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    not only that, but she can act as our liason with the To'kra in our fight against the evil Goa'uld.
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    These boots are made for walking.

    A video to download to your PC and play there. (Unfortunately, it is no longer available on YouTube)

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    The embedded version here doesn't correctly display the video's 16:9 aspect ratio, so download the video and play it on your PC to see it as it is intended.

    Rice for President Yahoo Group has an extensive photoshop collection - photoshops of Condoleezza Rice. There is no direct link to the photo section of a Yahoo group for non members.

    You need to join with a Yahoo ID then check out the Photos section for three albums of photoshops - (1) Photoshopped: Soft power, (2) Photoshopped: Tough power and (3) Photoshopped: Warrior power.

    There must be a few hundred photoshops there now. Well worth a look. :mrgreen:
     
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    As a Time Lord or rather Time Lady as the Doctor is female in her current regeneration, The Doctor has no need to liase with such evil as the Goa'uld. She will simply defeat them. :mrgreen:

    Nor is the Doctor limited to inter-stellar travel via such primitive technology as the Star Gates when a perfectly good TARDIS (cunningly disguised as a British 1950s police box) can take her anywhere in time and space.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ZeW95ypbc"]YouTube - Dr Rice - that's who! Condi as Doctor Who. (High Quality)[/ame]

    Note - click on HQ to watch in High Quality. If ever a video needed HQ it is this one.
     
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    Doctor Rice is a Timelord??
    ahsooo.. that would explain why hundreds of thousands of years from now the last human left in the Universe is a darkie.

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    that's the beauty behind it! she'd be unbiased! or was that some sort of racist jab?
     
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    Yes, Americans are victims of racism :disbelief:
     
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    despite the fact only left wingers can be victims of racism right? Right?
     
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    both of you sthu and vote for Condi to Supreme Overlord, err President of the UE already. chop chop hop to it :nod:
     
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    There are victims of racism and there are those who triumph over racism.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKNtkCfPGWY"]YouTube - Alabama's Condi[/ame]

    Wonder Woman for President of the European Union.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_GHOHESDEo"]YouTube - Condi Rice - Wonder Woman[/ame]

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd-PxC8dyYg"]YouTube - Condoleezza Rice performs on the piano at Buckingham Palace for Queen Elizabeth II[/ame]
     
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    Enjoy your infraction :-D

    you provided absolutely 0 proof that there were integration problems with muslims in europe. Incapable of using google much?
     
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    No. It might have something to do with the fact that she wasn't born in Europe.
     
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    When do we all get to vote then?

    Oh sorry, the EUSSR doesn't do democracy, does it?

    The president of the EU is no more legitimate than Vichy was in France, a fascist puppet leader imposed via undemocratic means!
     
  22. Eldedu

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    Bite us. :bored:
     
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    How sweet, he's following me around. :mrgreen:
     
  24. Eldedu

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    No. Some of us have the capacity to post in more than one thread per day and still remember what we're talking about.
     
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    Now if only you knew what you talk about and we get progress.

    Sad fact remains that the EU is a huge bureaucratic machine full of useless waste of money.

    moving from brussels to strassburg for 200 million a year for starters.
     

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