Congratulations BLM.

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BLM may also have smashed the NFL in the long run. It is now a continue of paying as much as over $600 for the purpose of attending an anti-police and pro-BLM protest rally by black millionaires.
     
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    Why do people even bring up Tamir Rice on this thread?

    I completely acknowledge this as a police brutality case, in fact he's one of the very few guys on the BLM list I genuinely feel bad about, since he actually did nothing wrong.

    But...what does this show? That police brutality exists? Nobody is denying that.

    The disagreement is on the existence of *racist* police brutality. I've yet to see an example of racist police brutality. Police brutality affects every race and does not unfairly affect blacks or any other group. Blacks commit from 30 to 50% of violent crimes yet only 25% of the people killed by the police are black, the stats are easily available. I don't see an injustice here, in fact the stats show that #WhiteLivesMatter would be more grounded in facts...
     
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    It is not Tamir Rice or (the relative few) actually innocent Black people who get killed or harmed by the police who are the root cause of Black violence. It is the Blacks themselves and their liberal leaders who allow this culture of violence to persist.

    Would you be more alert to danger going down a street lined with Pit Bulls, or Poodles? The police are going to naturally be more on guard, more ready with their weapons in bad areas with high violence.

    I doubt you would be able to survive a lethal force encounter as cop. As there is no way you'd be able to distinguish a toy or AirSoft gun from a real one being quickly pointed at you---even in good light.
     
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    It was impressive enough to be labeled a UNESCO Heritage Site.

    If you're so lazy to actually link real articles yourself then don't bother to bring it up at all, especially if it's from a place I know you probably wouldn't care to visit otherwise.
     
  5. Voltamp

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    congrats, they took pity on a mound of dirt built when other heritages were sailing around the world.


    the links are in there dog.
     
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    Okay then, here's a ton of World Heritage Sites in Africa then since that wasn't enough.

    http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/&order=region

    Then you should've just linked them in the first place. Using a forum as a source for another forum is, at best, a cop out.
     
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    You are part of the problem, the color of your skin doesn't to put you on a pedestal as you seem to be thinking you are.

    While there are definitely some cop BS things that still happen, the amount of racism and race "cop killings" is absolutely minor compared to the black on black crime. When the majority of the country see a hyperessageration twoards one smaller issue, with rarely any coverage at all of a massive and growing problem, there is nothing else to call it than media bias, and all ignore it in the end.

    As you claimed yourself, you tend to only see your side of things as your first step is to criticize and bask us for not doing it the way you thought we would."

    Things have really gotten so much better in the last 30-5t0 years, its immeasurable. Only younger than 20 black guys seem to think differently and say "they are more oppressed than ever" instead of reaching to middle for equality like MLK did, the BLM leaders are overreaching for

    My three questions, ignoring the cops

    1) What do you think about the MASSIVE difference in black crime vs all others, including minorities. Do you think this is not fault of black americans? are they force to do it?

    2) DO you think having 75%+ black fathers bail on their kid is a MASSIVE problem, what should be done?

    3) Do you think that the average black person has become more aggressively racist in the last decade? This has been noticed by many people including myself and im curious as to your thoughts.
     
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    have you even looked at that? there's wildlife preserves and ****.

    hahaha your heritage is pastures where elephants can take a dump.

    i honestly don't mean to be so hurtful but you can't admit any fault in the black community and there's no getting through to ppl like that.

    no it's just convenient.
     
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    Wildlife preserves are good things, actually.

    I didn't give it a free pass, I even said as much earlier in this thread. But you shouldn't talk about "no getting through" when you can't even admit you're a racist.

    Whatever makes you feel good.
     
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    So the cop shouldn't have fired until the kid shot first? How many dead cops is acceptable to you?
     
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    and what does a wildlife preserve have to do with black heritage?

    more importantly to the point we've been discussing, what does it say about black heritage?
    no, you haven't, and yes you've given it a free pass so far.

    if racist means i dislike everyone who isn't white and feel that whites are superior to everyone, then no i am not racist.

    if racist means i avoid blacks in large numbers and sometimes even in small numbers then yes i am.
     
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    That is not where BLM went astray. They tried painting every black death at the hands of the police as racism when the facts went against them far more times than not. It is a shame really because, for instance, the lady in Baltimore may very well have given them a legitimate argument about lead paint exposure in low income housing to work with had they not been so quick to jump on that crazy woman's side when she was brandishing a weapon and the police had already given her ample opportunity to surrender. You kind of lose the momentum when you are defending the killing of an armed woman using her child as a shield against the police right out of the gates.
     
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    He should have shot him. With a taser. Not a gun.

    Most police killings can be resolved by simply using non-lethal methods.
     
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    I didn't say it had anything to do with black heritage, I just said they were UNESCO sites, nothing wrong with that.

    You must forget when you asked me what could be done to improve the black community earlier in this thread, to which I responded to you.

    At least you admit it.....
     
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    So you think a taser, that may not work, is the proper tool to use with a suspect that you are told is armed with a gun?

    So much revisionist history and 20/20 hindsight here.
     
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    Irony doesn't make a bad argument sound smart, it just makes it sound worse than it already is.

    A 12 year old kid with a gun. Shooting on sight...what a great idea. Kids with toy guns get killed every year, it's not like cops don't know about that. Also, on the initial call, the person said "it's probably fake" about the gun. Hindsight indeed...

    Besides, this "taser failing" thing is just a terrible point. Cops are trained to back up with a gun in case the taser fails. In my scenario, there's a very high chance that nobody gets killed, and a very small chance that the cop holding the taser gets killed IF it's an actual gun (he's a kid, so not that likely), IF he's hostile (again, not that likely, maybe he's just playing with the gun with the safety switch off and not a criminal, he's a kid after all) and IF the other cop can't shoot in time and IF the cops can't take cover in their own freaking car.

    So in my scenario, there's like 1 chance in 1000 that someone dies. In your scenario, there's 100% chance that someone dies.

    So, is the cops' job to save lives...or is it to shoot on sight people who may or may not be a danger (but most likely not)?

    That's the US trigger happy culture for you. Seriously America, your country is a joke to the world because of people like this. European cops hardly ever kill anyone and hardly ever get killed in action, maybe you should learn from them, kick out the cow boy loonies and get sensible people in charge.

    #EndPoliceBrutality
    #NotARaceIssue
     
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    And once again, you are dishonest. The cop wasn't told that the gun was probably fake. He was only told the kid was waving the gun around in the park.
     
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    Joke's on you.
     
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    That was a 911 dispatcher, who happened to be black also, not a cop.

    And you were wrong. I was rifh t and you are trying to change meanings to not appear wrong.
     
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    People who can't admit they were wrong when they are is already sad, but it's even worse when they insult people and then persist trying to save face by doubling down on their insults and then editing them out. Pathetic.
     
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    "more times than not" leaves a hell of a lot dead black folks that shouldn't be dead
     
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    And your inability or unwillingness to comprehend what I posted is why BLM will continue to lose the day. Not every black person killed by the police had clean hands and to pretend those who didn't have clean hands were victims of racism dilutes the BLM cause.
     
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    Maybe they're going about it the right way and maybe they're not. Would you please list some names so I can find out what they're up to?
     

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