Congratulations, Ron DeSantis. Great Job [rolling eyes]. Moron.

I do also.
But a business should have the same options.
They are people also. Are they not?

A mask doesn't protect the one wearing.
And I am not a mask advocate.

 

Yes they do, just get the right kind

 

No, they protect others from the one wearing.

And they do work in that sense.
I went to work everyday through out this pandemic. I heard virtually no coughing or sneezing all winter. At work.

 

Date ArticleType
7/28/2021 6:08:07 PM Press Release
Florida Hospital Association Provides COVID-19 Update


Florida Hospital Association Provides COVID-19 Update

TALLAHASSEE, FL – The Florida Hospital Association, the state’s leading voice for hospitals and health systems, released data today from an informal survey about COVID-19 hospitalizations. This data compares current COVID-19 hospitalizations in a region compared to its previous peak of COVID-19 hospitalizations. The average regional number only includes hospitals that responded. Statewide numbers are provided by the CDC.

Statewide COVID-19 Update (as of 7/28/2021):

• Current Hospitalizations 8,816..........July 17; 5,359
• Previous Peak (7/23/2020) 10,179
• Percent of Previous Peak 87%

 

There are masks that do protect the wearer. Get one of those. And if masks don’t protect the wearer then why is it that doctors wear them? Wouldn’t they just make patients wear them and not worry about themselves?

 

When has mask wearing contained any Covid outbreak? Answer: Never.

The most vulnerable got Covid and because gravely ill even when they were masked while the not so vulnerable to Covid got Covid but weren't affected from Covid exposure even when they didn't wear masks.

 

nm...

 

After reading the article you’re wrong. Private businesses can still require and are requiring masks in some cases. So you’re freaking out over nothing. Read the OP supplied article

 

I guess your post is in jest so I'll just clue you in that the post you sorta quoted is true.

 

To protect the patient.

Now if you're referring to face shields they protect the wearer also.

 

Not freaking out. At all.

Just was asking if business can require masks in FL. You first replied, no.

Now you say they can. Freedom.

 

These masks protect the wearer for sure. Get one and all your fears will go away.

https://www.protectly.co/products/3...zQVsDg9ttISs7XZIhhEBsw8JDec5LB4RoCWvAQAvD_BwE

 

Yeah I was wrong and I apologize for the bad info.

 

Remember, I posted to you, I am not a mask advocate.
I wore them when required.
And don't when not required.

So no need for the projections.

 

California and Florida each have 20 million unvaccinated people in their states. On Thursday, Los Angeles had over 3200 cases, and that’s just LA. The media is attacking DeSantis because they think he’s going to run for president in 2024.

 

Florida's Current Case Hospitalization Rate is VERY HIGH

Number of Cases, Jul 6 to Jul 17 (11 days) = 62,268

Total Number of Covid Hospitalizations, Jul 17; 5,359..............,Jul 28, 8,816............Up 3,457 (11 days)

CHR 3,457/62,268 = 5.5%.........Pandemic CHR average; 3.5%

Note; Younger and Sicker Patients

https://web.fha.org/news/newsarticledisplay.aspx?ArticleID=32
https://web.fha.org/news/NewsArticleDisplay.aspx?articleid=26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Florida

Also, YES, patients are younger and sicker, however, an ICU surge/failing organs doesn't make any sense.

‘It just went boom.’ ICUs are being overwhelmed with younger — and sicker — patients

https://www.miamiherald.com/

 

Looks like California had their share of Media attention when their daily cases were surging to record highs


California's new one-day record for COVID-19 cases: 74,000 ...
https://www.latimes.com › california › story › california...Jan. 5, 2021 — After a relative New Year's lull, the state on Monday reported its highest number of new coronavirus cases in a single day, more than 74,000, ...

CA Records Highest Number Of Daily Covid-19 Cases Ever ...
https://deadline.com › 2020/12 › ca-covid-19-update-c...Dec. 16, 2020 — California's Covid-19 dashboard reported 53,711 new cases over the previous 24-hour period. Usually a big jump in one day can be attributed to a ...

California is first state to pass 3m Covid cases The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › jan › californ...Jan. 19, 2021 — California has become the first state to record more than 3m coronavirus infections, as it grapples with an unprecedented surge of cases ...

California's Covid-19 case surge is alarming - CNN
https://www.cnn.com › california-covid-surge-alarming-rise
See inside struggling California hospital as Covid-19 cases rise ... leading to continued daily record highs in hospitalizations and deaths.
Dec. 29, 2020

California tops 3 million Covid-19 cases - CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2021/01/18 › california-3-million-...
Jan. 18, 2021 — California has become the first state in the nation to record more than 3 million Covid-19 cases, according to data from Johns Hopkins ...

California Reports Record One-Day Coronavirus Death Toll ...
https://www.usnews.com › News › Health NewsDec. 30, 2020 — The state, which is seeing a surge in COVID-19 cases that is overwhelming its health care system and workers, recorded 442 deaths on Tuesday, ...

California coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and deaths ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com › nation › 2020/12/16Dec. 17, 2020 — California hospitals are nearly overwhelmed as the state reports record-breaking coronavirus numbers.

California reaches another single-day record for new ... - KTLA
https://ktla.com › news › california › california-reaches-...Jan. 5, 2021 — After a relative New Year's lull in confirmed infections, California posted a new single-day record for coronavirus cases Monday, ...

California records new high in coronavirus cases - ABC News
https://abcnews.go.com › Health › wireStory › californi...Nov. 25, 2020 — Cases of COVID-19 have been climbing at an alarming rate for weeks and hit a new high of 18,350 recorded Tuesday, surpassing a previous record ...

U.S. sets record for COVID deaths, and California confirms ...
https://www.marketwatch.com › story › us-sets-record-for...
Dec. 31, 2020 — California set a record of 432 deaths from COVID-19 on Wednesday, ... has the second highest death toll at 193,875 and is third by cases at ...

 

That's because people don't know what masks to wear and how to do it correctly, like I posted several times including yesterday (I think, in another thread - you can easily find the post by looking at my recent posting history). The right kinds of masks, worn correctly, are highly protective.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-breaks-record-covid-19-174130613.html

Now, Florida breaking hospitalization records, too.

 

No, he is being attacked because he is working AGAINST containment, unlike California's governor (and unlike Maryland's Republican governor, for that matter - I couldn't care less if a governor has R or D attached to his name - I look at policies and results).

You are failing to quote that California is much more populous than Florida. Proportionally, California is doing much better.

 

Dairyair, you're a good poster, why are you so wrong about this? Face shields don't protect the wearer against airborne, aerosol-savvy SARS-CoV-2 (except for direct splashes to the eyes, a rare mode of transmission). On the other hand, N95 and FPP2 respirators (and even more, N100) do protect the WEARER, and do so dramatically, as evidenced by numerous studies. N95 respirators and even surgical face masks as long as they are at least ASTM level 2 grade and are worn with an add-on that enhances the seal (such as a neoprene brace) drop the odds ration and relative risk for the wearer of catching Covid-19 very significantly, and that's a FACT.

 

That's a great stance but rules aren't calibrated for those of us that take personal responsibility.

The more I read @apexofpurple's posts on the situation there, the more I'm leaning toward this is the cart driving the horse. Sure, FL probably makes a good dollar during Spring break and the summer but it feels different than just that. I've talked to enough anti-vaxxers to know that while they support Trump and even "Stop the Steal" they are drawing a hard line at getting the vaccination. So, this could very well just DeSantis pandering to the Republican anti-vaxxers that want no part of the vaccine, masking, social distancing, etc.. It's a dumb way to get their vote but it may explain why he's making some really bad choices right now.

 

There's a huge surge in ICU's, and that doesn't make any sense???????????.........and Republicans certainly don't have an answer.


‘It just went boom.’ ICUs are being overwhelmed with younger — and sicker — patients........https://www.miamiherald.com/

''At Nicklaus Children’s Hospital in Miami, there were 17 patients with COVID-19 on Friday, including six in the ICU and one who needed a ventilator, said Dr. Marcos Mestre, vice president and chief medical officer.''

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253144973.html

THE MATH

6 in ICU's/17 patients = 35%...................Pandemic average; 19% in ICU's, 5% On Ventilators
1 ''On a ventilator''

It should be the opposite.......a surge of patients ''On Ventilators''

AND HERE'S WHY


Fact; Over 80% of Seniors are fully vaccinated
Fact; Up to 86 Percent of Older Americans Have a Pre-Existing Condition
Fact; Pandemic Average; 19% of covid hospitalized patients were in ICU's.........Mainly Seniors

https://www.cms.gov/CCIIO/Resources/Forms-Reports-and-Other-Resources/preexisting#:~:text=Up to 86 Percent of Older Americans Have a Pre-Existing Condition

RATIONALE; Patients are YOUNGER, thus, generally healthier, and compared to Seniors, YOUNGER have a much lower percent of comorbidities, thus, why are they overwhelming intensive care untits?

 

Pure projection. If any side is cultish it is coming from the left, the side that treats this disease as having the same lethality as the bubonic plague. It is also the side that does not say anything when their leaders don't wear masks when they think no one is looking or just don't give a damn if anyone is.

Nancy Pelosi


Chuck Schumer


Dianne Feinstein


Texas Democrats Going to DC to Avoid Their Jobs


Tony Fauci, the Dear Leader


Etc., etc. And so on, and so on.

This cult is Faucism wants mask mandates, vaccine mandates, and lockdowns, which caused an uptick in suicides, and does not seem to comprehend why many people are not taking this disease with a low mortality rate with apocalyptic trepidation, especially when the leaders who are imposing these draconian prescriptions clearly don't take it all too serious themselves, and the media, the supposed watchdog and the pillar of democracy, looks the other way in the face of this blatant hypocrisy.

 

Ridiculous Republican Rhetoric