Contradictions in atheism

Atheism

The only 'contradictions' in atheism would be if one claimed to be ab atheist, then declared he/she was believed in some sort of a god.

Other than that, there are no 'contradictions in atheism', just a sorry-ass attempt by the OP to once again complain about atheism, and to allow his/her 'friends' to post their silly little word definitions and over and over – A.K.A. a troll fest.

 

Then let us add another dish to the so-called "troll fest". How about this one:
"nullifidian [ˌnʌlɪˈfɪdɪən]
n
a person who has no faith or belief; sceptic; disbeliever
adj
having no faith or belief
[from Latin, from nullus no + fidēs faith]"

Would that one suffice in describing an atheist?

 

If it were, then we would not need the word atheist.

The prefix "A" alters the meaning of the word "theist" to mean "not" or "without".

"theist" means a belief in the existence of a god or gods, usually a personal God as creator.

Any contradictions are artefacts of your fertile imagination.

 

Just about like your fertile imagination: Thinking that the addition of the letter "a" as a prefix to the word "Theism" alters the meaning of Theism or like the additional letter will eradicate the meanings of the word "believe"; as in "4. To have an opinion; think:"

Can you successfully refute that definition and make it disappear from the dictionary, using your fertile imagination?

 

a- or an- [Greek a- and an- un-, non-] Negative, not (abiotic, acaulescent, acephalia, aphasia, asexual, atrophy, anorexia). Note: a- is used before consonants other than h (and sometimes even before h); before vowels, and usually before h, an- is used.

Theist - Having a belief in god/s

A-theist = not - having a belief in god/s

No contradictions to be seen.

 

Of course there is a contradiction. You are now talking about an 'atheist' as opposed to speaking about "atheism". Please keep your thoughts focused.

 

Which is not necessarily anything. You are finding contradictions in the views of some atheists, not in atheism itself.

 

Can 'atheism' exist if there are no 'atheists'? No? Then the actions of the 'atheists' is a reflection of 'atheism'. Therefore, the contradictions being found in and within or associated with 'atheists' are contradictions of 'atheism' as those 'atheists' are a reflection of 'atheism'.

 

Of course it can.

 

Yes, it was….I’m sorry though that I don’t remember the links to those sites. I was banned from one and I was threatened at another that my post would be removed. But I never once violated any of their rules.....they just did not like what I was saying.

 

How so? Please explain how something that is subjective exist when there are none around that entertain such subjective notions? Also provide the necessary objective evidence to support your claim.

 

You can be hated for doing things that are wrong as well.

Jesus was hated for the things He said and did for the common man and women. He was not hated for shoving His beliefs down the Pharisees throat. And it was the religious people that hated Jesus not the common people. And it was the religious people that turned the common people against Jesus to get Him crucified. So don’t fool yourself, if you are doing what I see so many of those here are doing it is not because you are doing God’s will why they hate you……they hate you because you wont leave them alone.


The Bible says when you suffer you should not suffer as an evil doer. Arguing with people day in and day out over the same thing is not good, but evil. So if someone hates you for trying to compel them to believe what you believe,then you are getting what you deserve.

And you may not. The parables that Jesus told does not indicate that some takes time. It just tells us that the seeds that fell on good soil sprung up, while the others don't do so well. Maybe, in the future God has plans to call one of the person you badger, but I assure you it will not because of what you did, but God will use someone else that has a better approach. It is interesting that in my case God used my father but my father was not a Christian (I knew a lot of Christians) and he never pestered me, even though he read at least one Christian magazine. I saw the magazines on his floor and I became interested in one and I took it home and the rest is history.

 

You could have gods without believers there could be no gods even if there are no atheists

so how do the contradiction of atheists show a contradiction in the idea of atheism that there are no gods?

 

Do you have a problem following the terms stated in the definition of believe:

""be·lieve (b-lv)
v. be·lieved, be·liev·ing, be·lieves
v.tr.
1. To accept as true or real: Do you believe the news stories?
2. To credit with veracity: I believe you.
3. To expect or suppose; think: I believe they will arrive shortly.
v.intr.
1. To have firm faith, especially religious faith.
2. To have faith, confidence, or trust: I believe in your ability to solve the problem.
3. To have confidence in the truth or value of something: We believe in free speech.
4. To have an opinion; think: They have already left, I believe.""

You think about God or gods or you hold an opinion about God or gods, then you believe in God or gods. There is the contradiction in 'atheism'. Definitively, it argues against the very language which they use to express what they claim to be a dis-belief or non-belief. That very definition of 'believe' shows that atheism is a lie when the person claiming to be an atheist proclaims his/her status as an atheist.

 

so i believe harry potter is not a real person therefore i believe in hairy potter therefore hairy potter exists? Therefore I believe in hairy potter as a real person?

( grr words that sound like other words )

I suppose an atheist requires the existence of a certain kind of god but that’s kind is just a definition of a fictional class of being and it about not believing the gods you think of as fiction are real


Where the contradiction that shows there is must be actual gods?

 

The belief itself. BTW... you seem to have gotten a little tongue-tied in your above posting. Also, Harry Potter is a real person:
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Harry-Potter/

 

When atheists constantly shift the definitions of atheism - that is indeed a contradiction, its also dishonest.

Let see if we can take a look here:

http://www.atheists.org/atheism

That seems a little bit more than just, "Atheism is JUST the belief in no God."

And indeed, the atheists spewing about superior morality, nihilistic tendancies, and science, which we see constantly, not too mention the emotionalism so often encountered, points in an entirely different direction of JUST a single sentence.

The contradiction is that what atheism is always shifts. And even as atheists argue those strong atheist principles, well, its only some athiests.

Its just an excuse to avoid establishing and defending a standard. As indeed now, when people point to the mountain of propoganda and sites litered with atheist issues and say, "There is clearly much more going on here than a single sentence."

Well, its as if that other stuff doesn't exist?

Except it does. And when it is aimed at the maligining and slander of your faith, you do tend to notice it.

http://www.atheists.org/religion

Why don't atheists?

 

No there are atheists who say things like, "We just believe in no God." and then they tell us that atheists are committed multi-culturalists.

Bit of a contradiction isn't it?

But yes, while argueing one of your favorite topics, agnostic atheism, one of your peers indicated that he believed in 'something' out there - but not God, therefore its OK to run around calling Christians delusional.

 

In my post that you responded to, I was addressing a singular specific person, and your response to me, you reference "they" and "their". Who are those others that are inferred by the plural forms "they" and "their"?

 

How does multiculturalism conflict with a lack of belief in one or more gods?

I'm not saying that it's okay to call Christians "delusional," but how is that behavior contradictory to a lack of belief in one or more gods?

 

How does multiculturalism flow from - JUST the belief in no God?

Not too mention, when you specifically reject everyone else's faith, that kinda makes multiculturalism a ... difficult prospect for ... JUST one sentence.

Indeed, an atheist can claim and reject multiculturalism (and indeed they do), because the concept does not flow from JUST one sentence does it?

See above, in fact, read the thread and see four of your peers, Nullity, Revol, Mem, and Iolo blow their stacks. You tell me why every discussion about atheists rationalism ends with atheists blowing their stacks?

And how does THAT flow from JUST the belief in no God?

 

"be·lief (b-lf)
n.
1. The mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another: My belief in you is as strong as ever.
2. Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something: His explanation of what happened defies belief.
3. Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons."

"be·lieve (b-lv)
v. be·lieved, be·liev·ing, be·lieves
v.tr.
1. To accept as true or real: Do you believe the news stories?
2. To credit with veracity: I believe you.
3. To expect or suppose; think: I believe they will arrive shortly.
v.intr.
1. To have firm faith, especially religious faith.
2. To have faith, confidence, or trust: I believe in your ability to solve the problem.
3. To have confidence in the truth or value of something: We believe in free speech.
4. To have an opinion; think: They have already left, I believe."


Based upon those emphasized definitions, to have an opinion regarding something is an act of 'believing' or of holding/having a 'belief'. So, for any atheist to express his/her opinion that they do not have a belief in God or gods, is contradictory. Do you have an 'opinion' about God or gods? If you do, then you have a 'belief' in God or gods.

 

so sorry harry potter the boy wizard from the popular children’s book series

now that that’s settled are you going to stick to your idea that doubting anything makes what is doubted true

 

Can you clarify what you mean by "flow?" I don't understand how idea #1 contradicts idea #2 just because #1 doesn't "flow" from #2. To me, that just says #1 and #2 aren't dependent on each other.

 

Well, lets put it this way. On this forum, you are identified as "stig42". Is that your real name? No? Then that name is a 'fiction'. Thus 'stig42' is a fictional character.... a myth... a product of the imagination.

In either event of the Harry Potter issue, it has been shown that Harry Potter is a real person "white pages listing", and Harry Potter is a stage name used by a fellow. That other person is a real person, just like the many Harry Potters listed on the White pages.

Now, when are you going to learn to stick to the facts. The facts that were being discussed was not "doubt" but rather "belief" and 'believing'.... oh and of course Harry Potter.

Now to add a little more fuel to the fire, check these out.
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Easter-Bunny/
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Jack-Horner/
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Bo-Peep/

So, you see, many of those so-called fictional characters are in fact real people.