Convert To Islam Or Death - Egypt

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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The first Islamic empire after muhammads death were characterized by The Wars of Apostasy, war waged against fellow Arabs
     
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    That's pre-Hijra and post-Hijra scripture. The Hijra was the migration to Medina, the flight of persecution of Muslims in Mecca, particularly following the death of Muhammad's protector within the family clan structure.

    I also find it interesting how you had to simply dismiss the rest of my post without responding to any of it.
     
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    The Ridda Wars to be more accurate. The War of Apostasy is a bit of a misnomer. Many of the tribes fought were never Muslim, but instead held certain defense treaties and confederate treaties with the Muslims that they thought they could breach upon Muhammad's death. It also had a lot to do with Abu Bakr's desire to capture and maintain northern trade routes from the Byzantines. Some were indeed places that engaged in apostasy through rebellion, but not all, nor was the campaign even limited to rebellious tribes.

    Not sure why you brought it up, is doesn't do anything to disprove what it is that I posted, and you simply, once again, ignored the bulk of my response.
     
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    I know what the Hijra is. And still, The Quran doesn't make any " note of pre-Hijra and post-Hijra scripture."
     
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    Actually what started the wars was those tribes refusal to continue paying zakat to their rulers in Mecca. A tax only imposed upon Muslims.
     
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    Sure it can that's exactly what the Median / Meccan distinction is.

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    Yeah, no. Muhammad was already planning a northern campaign against the Byzantines when he died. Abu Bakr pushed on with that and dealt with rebelling tribes as well. There would have been a northern campaign regardless of payment or non-payment of the Zakat. That was simply additional issues.

    Once again though, it's cute how you have to ignore 90% of my posts ;)
     
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    The Quran doesn't make any " note of pre-Hijra and post-Hijra scripture." OR any note of Meccan and medinian verses.(*)


    ???? I've said nothing about Byzantines. Byzantines weren't paying any taxes to Mecca. I was speaking of the wars of apostasy. Muslims guided by rightly guided caliphs were waging jihad in Spain to the west and Afghanistan to the east within 80 years of muhammads death, way beyond the wars of apostasy in the Arabian peninsula.
     

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