Corona verses the Spanish flu

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Some people in here are determined to compare Corona to the flu in an attempt to show just how bad Corona is and how it dwarfs any flu pandemic so let’s look closer at this.
    Covid 19 pales in comparison to the Spanish Flu pandemic so maybe you fear mongers need to try another approach .

    Spanish flu
    “a major public health crisis, causing at least 50 million deaths worldwide, including approximately 675,000 in the United States.”


    “The 1918 flu pandemic virus kills an estimated 195,000 Americans during October alone”


    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pandemic-timeline-1930-and-beyond.htm


    Now let’s look at Corona.
    Coronavirus Cases:
    1,836,965

    Deaths:
    113,266
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
     
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    If you have to resort to comparing Covid-19 against the single worst infection events of the last 150 years, then you should know that covid-19 is no ****ing joke.
     
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    So your argument would be that medical practices for saving Covid-19 patients is the same as it was 100 years ago - otherwise, it's pretty difficult to make comparisons. Back in 1918, the death rate for Covid-19 would be significantly higher. No, I don't think it's as bad as the 1918 pandemic, but it's always just numbers until a friend or family member dies.
     
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    And that’s just it. There is no comparison. Covid 19 is nothing compared to the Spanish flu which the world survived so stop the doom and gloom fear mongering.
     
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    And our useless, knee jerk, economy crushing policies are piling on the misery. Now we can bury our dead and be jobless.
     
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    Notice how they skip right past the above and just start yammering?
     
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    No my argument would be that this virus some people are overreacting to is in reality small potatoes compared to the relatively recent Spanish flu and fear mongers saying this is oh so much worse than the flu are full of ****.
     
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    Those policies are not useless because they are the explicit reason why the projected number of deaths is now significantly lower than the previous projections.
     
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    True, and a few years after the Spanish Flu we were in the Roaring '20s.

    BTW, Wuhan Virus is a much more accurate geographical description of the Coronavirus than Spanish Flu was to that problem.
     
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    The "doom and gloom fearmongering" is explicitly why Covid-19 will (hopefully) not compare to the Spanish Flu.
     
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    The now debunked 200,000 figure assumed social distancing.
     
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    Do you think doctors and nurses who have worked for the last three weeks with no break, while watching some of their colleagues die, would agree with you?
     
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    This is virus is definitely and objectively much worse than the flu.

    The Spanish Flu was an extremely lethal and virulent form of the flu and it took place long before a vaccine or even penicillin existed.
     
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    The 200,000 estimate has not been debunked.

    Debunking would require a full analysis after this pandemic has ended.
     
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    Or maybe Covid 19 is not near as deadly as the Spanish flu was. Remember that it killed people of all ages and especially children while Covid for the most part kills the old and sick among us and children get off virtually untouched.
     
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    Numbers don’t lie.
     
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    Well, we have the perfect Petri dish to examine what might have happened. Watch Brazil over the next two weeks. They have decided to
    ignore the virus which is starting to hit it's upward curve there. They are at about 1,100 deaths right now.
     
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    Show us the statistics on those who remain working in this shutdown such as grocery store employees verses those forced to be unemployed. Are grocery store workers and truck drivers dropping like flies?
     
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    The china virus is definitely not to be taken lightly, but was absolutely blown WAY out of proportion early on with some of the ridiculous numbers of dead we were originally hearing.
     
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    That 200k was assuming social distancing. While it is not over till its over, it certainly seems about as close to being debunked as we can get right now.
     
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    Who has said we should ignore the virus?
     
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    Both are based on imaginary number of infected individuals, and the first was modeled with all distancing procedures in place anyway.
     
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    This virus has been overhyped from the start and we are destroying our economy because of it. Countries that were marginal before this will face mass starvation as the world sinks into depression and more will die from that than from Corona.
     
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    That’s my biggest concern.

    The cure seems very possibly worse than the virus itself.
     
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    Am I in a time warp with you? Anyway, the Spanish Flu was so named in order to not embarrass an ally in WW1.

    Oh, and at the end of those "Roaring '20's" the world entered the biggest depression ever seen
     
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