Could President Trump Have Really Have Done Anything About the Coronavirus?

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    My subtle point was in regard to containment.. Bowerbird is famous for skirting around it :) Notice how she didn't use the WHOLE of Europe?
     
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    Are you sure of that? Even with that in question, it doesn't prove that they are being honest with the world ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    I bet you're like some that laugh like hell when they read road signs like "Slow Children at play" or think "Watch for falling rock" is a Indian message asking for information about a lost tribesman :roflol::roll:
     
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    Folks, had Trump banned Chinese Nationals from entering the country effective November 30th, 2019.....

    WORLD-WIDE CONDEMNATION!

    And then,

    2 months later, Trump would have been praised by several world leaders due to the fact, from Jan 29th to Feb 2nd, approx. 10 countries implemented the same preventive measure.
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    "As late as January 11, Wuhan’s health authorities were still claiming there were just 41 confirmed cases"

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...nas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back

    ......and only infectious if you kiss the host so to speak.
     
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    Nope..cause its the military that brought it in. Whos fault is it they were not screened.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Could President Trump Have Really Have Done Anything About the Coronavirus?"

    do you mean, when he said he had it under control, did he really have any control?
     
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    in what way, jury tampering?

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    The first known case of COVID-19 in the U.S. was confirmed on January 20, 2020, in a 35-year-old man who had returned from Wuhan, China,

    Thank's for the false information
    ....
     
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    many think they may have had it in December, it's really an unknown, we did not really test before then

    so it would be false to say we 100% know we did not have it before the first "confirmed" case
     
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    Our political Left would have gone insane and have used political activist leftist judges to block Trump's every -- even earlier -- proactive attempt to protect the citizens of this nation. That's simply a give based on their collective political history.
     
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    Key word.."Known". And its not false information. Its a fact, the military were not screened for it back in November, December, and perhaps even January.
     
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    So you are blaming the military to make Trump look bad based on not knowing...

    Ok got it, understood
     
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    ROFL, you would see it that way. Does that help ANYTHING?..No someone said some crap about shutting down the borders and i gave you a reason why that would do nothing in this situation.
     
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    What other way is there to see it? You made a baseless accusation and i called you on it that's all that happened here.
     
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    How about as closing the borders is NOT something Trump could have done to prevent this from spreading here.
    Ya know like the OP is asking.
     
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    Battling is an interesting word. It infers that he was actively involved. But he wasn't. He was watching. He was obstructing.

    A true leader, in my view, would have put his own 'battle' aside and focus on what he COULD do. He had his lawyers handling the impeachment, so he was free to listen to the experts and plan for what could be coming. But he didn't do that. He was focused on self preservation and then taking victory laps. Not leadership qualities in the face of a coming pandemic.
     
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    He did.. and. They are..
     
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    When the first bad news and rumors started to leak out of Wuhan in December the executives orders could have been issued by Trump to close all US borders tight by any and all means including the military, close all airports to any commercial and private landings and departures, rigidly control all ports with the military assigned to surveil and inspect all cargo and ensure no foreigners disembarked, not allow US citizens to get on cruise ships like the damn blind fools they were, and post military road checkpoints not to allow anyone to travel more than twenty miles from home except to commute to work.

    Only such measures would have had any chance of stopping the Wuhan coronavirus17+2, and every one of those executive orders would have been challenged in federal courts and many of those orders would have been overturned.

    This country at large did not have the slightest idea that the new Wuhan virus envelope was leaving the USA behind, and that the FDA/CDC/NIH old ways of doing things would only do the USA great harm.
     
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    What truth don't you know? Maybe if Pelosi kept her mouth shut and stopped trying to divide us first with impeachment and now with COVID

    Pelosi on Trump's coronavirus response: 'As the President fiddles, people are dying'
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/29/politics/nancy-pelosi-coronavirus-cnntv/index.html
     
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    Could Trump have done anything?

    Yea...be prepared

    React in a timely manner

    Be a leader

    But that's not Trump. Never was....never will be
     
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    You could make the exact same argument about FDR and Pearl Harbor.
     
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    that's 100% your opinion and on top of that your recommendations are extremely vague
     
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    In crisis communication it’s important to be consistent, transparent, factual, and credible.

    Trump shot his credibility long ago and for whatever reason can’t be consistent, transparent, or factual.

    Our lack of a Federal response to this will be studied for decades to come but we ignored intelligence warnings, downplayed the threat, lied about testing, lied about the rate of infection, lied about our response on the ground, mislead the public about cures, wasted time attempting to pass the buck about our short comings to our response. The incompetence rolls on and on.

    The “deconstruction of state” by the administration will be a featured chapter. The shifting of responsibility between departments, unfilled vacancies, and unqualified “acting” heads of departments is part of the recipe driving the incompetence.

    Add a lack of planning and coordination and the apparent disdain for both married to indecision describes our Federal leadership void. The wrong President at the wrong time.
     
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    More baseless accusations.
     

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