Creationism in schools, yes or no?

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Should Creationism or Theistic Evolutionary Theory be taught in universities and schools?

  1. Yes... Creationism... and Young Earth Theory.

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    5.9%
  2. Yes.... Theistic Evolutionary Theory.... and Old Earth Theory

    2 vote(s)
    11.8%
  3. In universities yes... .but not in schools.

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    52.9%
  4. I am not sure.... but our kids are a mess so we have to consider this!

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    29.4%
  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever it is, I was pretty sure it wasn't the result of scientific experiment or theory.
     
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  2. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In a way...... the Helen Wambach Ph. D. research seems to verify that
    all lives.... .of all humans...... have been recorded on something that precedes our birth.......
    and lasts long after that part of us died......(at least in those possible past lives).

    This is a one page summary but I read both of her books back in the 1990's.

    I consider her a courageous scientist...

    http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

    I believe that Dr. Wambach's research indicates something.......
    I have friends who would tend to think that she came up with replicable,
    verifiable evidence..... strongly indicative of the existence of demons.......
    with amazing technological capabilities that they use to deceive humans.........

    ... but I think that her research fits with what Jews have been saying about reincarnation
    for millennia........

    https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380599/jewish/Judaism-and-Reincarnation.htm
    Judaism and Reincarnation
    Beginner
    By Yerachmiel Tilles
     
  3. Guess Who

    Guess Who Well-Known Member

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    No it is not I did thorough study in it about 40 years ago and your only going by what your told by propagandist.
     
  4. JakeStarkey

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    Yes, it is. Trot along.
     
  5. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    I'm unconvinced of your argument that I have the right to take the property of my neighbor. I still stick by the idea that it's wrong for me to take other people's stuff, so I don't think I want to do that.
     
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  6. Longshot

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    You haven't convinced me that I have jurisdiction over my fellow man. I consider myself equal to my fellow man, not superior to him or his ruler.
     
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    :roflol:

    Facts disprove your anecdote.

    https://www.papertrell.com/apps/pre...tent/SC/52cb02b382fad14abfa5c2e0_default.html

     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Next time try responding to what I actually posted.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    I am not obliged to provide remedial education. Read the Preamble to the Constitution and then the rest of the Constitution so that you have a basis on which to engage in when it comes to how the government OF the People and BY the People works FOR the People.
     
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    You still haven't made a good argument for why I have the right to take the property of my neighbor or why it's legitimate for me to initiate violence against people people.
     
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    The excellent argument exists in the Constitution and the history of our nation.

    Speaking of which the abject failure of libertarianism as defined in the Articles of Confederation are the REASON WHY we have our current Constitution and taxation.

    This is all just basic Civics 101 and is taught in public schools. Why are you not aware of any of this?
     
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    So your argument seems to be that I have a right to take my neighbor's property just because I want it. Or that I can use violence against my neighbor simply because I wish to. That seems completely unethical. I'm not convinced. I'll stick with the golden rule.
     
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    why do you think your neighbor has the right to reap the benefits of living in a society, and refuse to contribute to it? Freeloader.
     
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    I don't think my neighbor should get economic goods from anyone that they haven't voluntarily given him. In other words, I don't think he should be a freeloader.

    So are you saying that I have a right to forcibly take my neighbor's property just because I want it. Or that I can use violence against my neighbor simply because I wish to. That seems completely unethical. I'm not convinced. I'll stick with the golden rule.
     
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    Asinine strawmen duly noted and ignored for obvious reasons.

    That you refuse to learn about the foundations of this nation and how it is governed by We the People is not my problem.

    Get back to me when you are ready and able to debate the REALITY of this country as it actually is today.
     
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    Strawman? Isn't your argument that I have a right to take the property of my fellow man? That I have the right to tax him?
     
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    As an atheist, I have no problem with schools teaching creationism. I would have a problem them them teaching Jewish creationism as a fact. All religions seem to have a creation myth and I find them interesting.

    Teaching children to believe the unbelievable is a mistake.
     
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    That is YOUR strawman fallacy!

    Taxes are not "taking" of "the property of my fellow man".

    Your abject refusal to deal with reality has forced me to conclude that you have no interest in taking this seriously and therefore your further responses in the same asinine vein will be ignored.
     
  19. DennisTate

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    Thank you for this excellent and quite encouraging response PatrickT........
    I believe that what I am proposing is truly different from anything that you have
    encountered in the past. My idea is that G-d evolved........
    and learned.... and got better and better and better at creation / invention of various life forms.......

    .... over essentially infinite time in the past....

    .... whereas Covering Cherub Lucifer and various now fallen angels were created / invented by G-d with genuine freedom of choice.....

    and they exercised their choice to try an experiment in COMPETITION.

    In a real sense their experiment was just as successful as the Stanley Milgram Ph. D. research.......

    ..... and their experiment inspired G-d to invent a Garden of Eden... plus Adam and Eve.......

    .... who were much like children......

    and all of a sudden they meet a brilliant former Covering Cherub......
    who could well be compared to an alien life form.

    Unless they have the ability to read my mind...... nobody can fully appreciate what I am proposing until they have spent many hours on Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman's website.......

    Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan...... felt that Adam and Eve were being tested.......
    and failed to recognize that he also was being tested...........
    much as Abraham was later tested...........

    Dr. Chaim Tejman deserves Origin of Life Prize.
     
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    I like the possibility of God evolving because so far it has proven to be a really dim bulb.
     
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    No. No religion in public schools. No Creationism. No Global Warming religion.
     
  22. Longshot

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    If, as you say, taxes don't take anything from anyone, then I have no issue with them.
     
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    The best answer I ever received, questioning a Buddhist Monk about religion was "It doesn't matter what you believe, what matters is how you live your life."
    Politics dominates today as the replacement for old world religions.
     
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    That truly is a brilliant....... and I believe inspired answer.......


    https://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a09

     

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