Dear Cons, why not Ron Paul?

I'd like to see him for the VP pick. That would be interesting and good strategy.
And VP is president of the Senate. His role as such has been ignored by most VPs for centuries. It should NOT be that way.

 

What are you saying here, that 9/11 was an inside job done by the Bush administration? You really need to come out from that conspiracy fog that's hanging over you and accept the fact that we as Americans will always have a foreign threat so long as we elect feckless foreign affairs guys like Ron Paul to take over the CIC position. You don't suspect that those 19 terrorists of 9/11 fame were actually born, bred and raised as legitimate American citizens, do you? LOL! And the lib crazies continue to rock.

 

If you've read his writings you will see that although he supports gold as the currency he does not want to impose by law tomorrow. his approach is to remove all laws making the use of gold as currency difficult, and if the free market chooses gold over time so be it. if nothing else, having some competition for the dollar would force the federal reserve to act more responsibly.

 

I'm not interested in getting someone in who liberals respect.

 

some liberals respect cain.

I think you're just not interested in Ron Paul because you erroneously think he's a hippy.

 

So? What's wrong with that?

 

well two things I guess. first is that some liberals probably have respect for the candidate of your choice so your statement is a strange one at best. second, holding erroneous beliefs isn't good is it?

 

Well maybe I would like Paul better if he didn't sound like a hippie...

 

Or if some of his policies weren't entirely experimental and derived solely from partisan libertarian principles alone? Well either way, I just described what makes him come off as a "hippie".

 

No. He just sounds like a hippie. I don't like that. It's a turn off.

 

Hmmm. Is anybody else getting the impression that the OP wouldn't vote for Ron Paul or anybody remotely like him if they showed up on their ballot, also thinks his positions are ridiculous, and is just using him as a way to poke at the conservatives?

Ah well. Successful troll is successful I guess.

I think after being ignored for a long time, fiscal responsability is finally coming into style. Even the Democrats are starting to take it somewhat seriously. And the Tea Party folks are crazy about it.

As for keeping the rich rich and the poor poor, libertarians are far more about that than the GOP.

Even Obama is willing to put up some sanctions and won't take military action off the table.

Not as much as what we'd have had to deal with if we hadn't. I noticed you picking on the "the times have changed" argument.

But it is entirely correct in a very physical way. It would be ridiculous to say that we should arm our soldiers with muskets. But the reality of new weapon systems mean that you either intercept a rocket early in flight, or you likely aren't stopping it, and if you can't even detect a large launch you don't even have a credible deterent without Subs.

And aircraft are the key aspect of winning a war if not an insurgency. And using them means you need to have bases for them in theater.

It might be hard to say what the founding fathers would do about the current realities. But I notice they didn't take to the field with bows and arrows.

Actually I recently have, and I got the flavor that he supports gold as a currency, but realizes he couldn't do it tomorrow, even as president.

He then wants to see if anybody is dumb enough to play the "prisoners dilemma" game with gold by removing all laws that direct people towards using the dollar. Essentially trying to end the currency and reward the gold lovers that brought about its demise.

 

Ron Pauls foreign policy sucks. That is too important for me to ignore.

 

Yea, I mean if that is true that means the market prefers gold. that means the government is screwing us by making us use federal reserve notes. ron paul isn't trying to favor one group or another, he just wants to let the market dictate the currency and interest rates.

 

every other candidates domestic policy sucks. that is too important for me to ignore.

 

Yep. Too important.

Can't let the hippie pass on that one either.

 

you are stubborn.

 

Explain my stubbornness. I'd like to know.

 

That is because....you aren't up on decent domestic policy?

Bachman is good. Cain is good. Perry is looking good. Even Ron Paul looks...decent. Don't trust the others.

All except Ron Paul have a decent domestic policy AND a commonsense foreign policy.

 

no, its because I have very well researched beliefs about the nature of the business cycle. no other candidate will properly address our economic problems. period.

agreed that both bachman and cain are good on some domestic economic issues. so is perry probably but i dont know enough about him yet. but not one of them will address monetary policy.

unfortunately decent isn't good enough (for me) since it excludes monetary policy.

 

you keep insisting ron paul is a hippy!

 

His foreign policy is pretty hippie-like. That must count for something.

And he sounds like a hippie when it talks about the War in Afghanistan.

 

I'll grant you he comes off a bit eccentric in his old age.

but, ron paul wants to end the wars because theyre unconstitutional, unaffordable, and ill advised, whereas hippies just want to end the wars mannnnnn

I'm not 100% on board with his foreign policy. but he is so good on everything else that he has my support.

 

His whole foreign policy stance fostered the 9/11 Inside Job Truth crowd and that's not okay with me. He need to quash that hippie nonsense and put it under the bus where it belongs >_<

 

I sympathize with both of your viewpoints. I would have no trouble at all voting for Ron Paul over Obama; it wouldn't even be close to me.

Right now, I'm supporting Ron Paul, if for no other reason than to force the other candidates to recognize the legitimacy - and popular public support - of his fiscal ideas.

 

I suppose if it were a choice between Obama and Paul I would reluctantly choose the hippie...ugh.

The only thing that would make me completely go over to Paul's side is if his running mate choice was super good.