'Democratic' Israel show their true face...again.

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Of course we all know (even the deniers), that while officially Israel may be approx 75% Jewish, that the non Jewish 25% are, in practice, treated like second class citizens. Which would be in keeping with the Jewish mindset of course, given that they teach (in their own writings), that non Jews can be stolen from, lied to, and even killed, but the fact is, only a fool would believe non Jews have IN ACTUAL REALITY, the same rights and protections as a Jew, in Israel. Strange though. Given that 25% are said not to be Jewish, I ask you, can you ever recall seeing a non Jewsish Israeli, on ANY political forum, anywhere at all?

    I have not. Ever. Do they not have access to the internet? Do they have to be careful what they sign up to, and write? Logically, one would think there is a one in four chance of a non Jewish Israeli being on here.

    Crickets and bales of tumbleweed instead. Just curious as to why this is consistantly repeated, over any forum I have looked at, for years?

    Has anyone else noticed this, I cannot be the only one? Of course, as Hajo Meyer said, the Israel democracy is a facade, a pretend at being 'civlised'. And he is probably better placed to speak than anyone on here. If you are all about illusion, hiding truth, then Israel is for you. If not, then Israel is not for you, for Israel relies on a LOT of illusion, to hide a LOT of truth, or confuse it, at least.

    The dog is getting crazier. 'Tis barking louder. Did not like the recent democratic vote at the UN. Did not like that at all, even though they tried to play it down, they are kidding no one. They were spiteful with it, and wasted no time in being so. World condemns more illegal settlments, the dog has gone crazy now, snarling, and simply out of control.

    Leaders of other countries have tried diplomatic means with them. It does not work. They have tried asking that they obey the Geneva Convention, and all UNSC Resolutions. It does not work with them. We have tried nice, and we have tried a non aggressive approach. And they stick two fingers up, to N America and to Eurpope, and they go on doing more of the same.

    The people of the world have tried the nice way, as well. They have campaigned, they have had years of peaceful protest, they have done everything they can, within the law. It makes no odds, the rogue state go on, anyway.

    Now. Does every other bloody country in the World, including our leaders and most of our people, just sit back and let ONE state stick two fingers up to us, in this way? And, since we have tried all the things I mentioned, I would ask you, but would seek special comment from Moon, Creation, and Trout, as to what can be done next? If ALL of the previous things have failed, the logically, it must be time to get serious, and up the ante, right? No use doing 20 more yrs, of the last 20yrs, is there?

    And now, The move to ban the Balad (National Democratic Alliance) and the United Arab List-Ta’al Party has been prepared with the filing of several motions filed with the Central Election Committee to disqualify a Balad member of the Knesset and to prevent either of those two parties from even taking part in elections.

    The reason for the “Middle East’s only democracy” to ban these parties is their policies. According to the Balad party programme, it wants to transform the state of Israel “into a democracy for all its citizens, irrespective of national or ethnic identity.”

    This is obviously not what the Zionist Supremacists want, and the move to ban Balad simply for being in favour of democracy reveals the true hypocrisy and lying nature of the Jewish Supremacists.

    Balad Knesset member Hanin Zoabi, speaking during a Knesset hearing this week on several motions filed with the Central Election Committee to have her disqualified, warned that she “represents a generation. Disqualifying me is disqualifying an entire generation of Palestinians.”

    According to the Israeli Ynet News Service, the Election Committee is likely to grant the motions, in which case the issue of disqualification will be brought before the High Court of Justice.

    “My problem is I’m not a terrorist, our problem is we are democrats in a non-democratic environment. This Knesset never forgot I’m both a woman and a Palestinian and it was used against me in the worst chauvinistic way,” Zoabi added.

    So next time you read or hear about “the Middle East’s only democracy,” remember that it is just another Jewish Supremacist lie.


    Zoabi: Knesset bans entire generation of Palestinians


    Balad MK warns proceeding aimed to stop her from serving in 19th Knesset will intensify dissonance between Palestinians, State


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4322020,00.html
     
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    Do you have any idea, Jack, how much crap on Palestinians and Muslims in general I can post everyday? It's just not my full time job... :)
     
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    Jack, to put in my tuppence worth by attempting to answer your specific point, I think it's difficult to know what can be done given the the US support of Israel and it's undermining of the democratic will of the UN. I cannot see how the rhetoric can be transformed into effective action in the absense of root and branch structural UN reforms.

    The UN was founded with the best of intentions. But these, like the motives surrounding every aspect of the post-war settlement, were mixed with some rather less elevated concerns. No one gives power away, and those nations which constructed the UN were careful to ensure that it reinforced rather than diminished their global pre-eminence.

    This concern is reflected in the constitution of the supreme international body, which is charged with the prevention of war, the Security Council. If one nation is threatening or attacking another, the council may use whatever measures are necessary to force it to desist: It can order a ceasfire, for example, levy economic sanctions, send in peacekeepers, or, at the last resort, authorize the armed forces of the UN's member states to take military action against the aggressor.

    The SC claims to sustain a world order founded on right rather than might. The problem is those with the might decide what is right. Each of the permanent members of the council has the power of veto. Unsurprisingly, the five permanent members are the three powers which founded the UN - the US, UK and Russia, along with China and France. They granted themselves the ability to detrmine who is the agressor and who is the aggressed. The veto is a recipe for the abuse of power and an impediment to justice.

    The problem with the way the SC has been established is those who possess power cannot be held to account by thoe who do not. The key democratic question - who guards the guards? - has been left unanswered. The SC is, by definition, tyrannical. The problem with the way the council is established is that, rather than moderating the realities of power, it compounds them. But even if the SC were to be disbanded tomorrow, and the supreme powers it possessed vested instead in the Assembly, the UN would still be far from democratic.

    At the end of the day, The US effectively engineers the UN to work in what it regards as its own interests which simultaneously means supporting Israel. The power structure within the the SC is not going to voluntary relinquish this vested interest, so it's difficult to see how root and branch reform of the UN can happen which will thus rein in Israel and the US.
     
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    Ironically, the best thing to do might be for Israel and its hangers on, to go full psycho.

    What is the use in them finding someone that offers false hope and goes on just doing what they have always done? None. We may as well wish for the imminent merger of the Likkud party, and that party Lieberman is attached to (he will be in storage for a short time).

    No use a death by a thousand cuts. A combintion of those two parties, and what would follow, would make them more rogue, more renegade, and probably listen less to their own intellgence people, as they often have been known to do.

    They will do something that will bring about their end. Could be literally anything. They see 80% of the World as being an exetensial threat!

    It could be that they massacre tens of thousands of people in Gaza. It could be that, due to their Jewish exceptionalism, and arrogance, and ignorance, they will go to far with the WRONG country. Not one you may expect. Things change, you know that. What if they really crossed the line, in some way, with France and Britain?

    You may wonder 'how', but there are many ways, esp the more rogue they go. France and Britain are not Lebanon and Gaza. This would not be the Six Day War, for the Jews. You just don't know, the point is, anything is almost possible, the way they are going. They will bring about their own downfall, that is the end of the story. It is OBVIOUS that is how it will eventually go. Then we have the small matter of them having convinced the world that Jews = Zionists, except for a few Jews that were to be ignored.

    Their actions could bring about a massive backlash against Jews outwith Israel.

    They are dangerous on every level.
     
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    [video=vimeo;9100194]http://vimeo.com/9100194[/video]
     
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    I like this:

    "Rush Limbaugh: We are being governed by a giant mistake..."

    And then people wonder why so many Americans want guns. :frustrated:
     
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    You posted this quote:

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- voltaire.


    Well then in the U.S. it has to be Saudi Arabia, because non of the medias seem to mention the attrocities committed towards Christians in the Islamic world.:disbelief:

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    "...Two years ago Salafist extremists attacked Baghdad’s Our Lady of Salvation church (pictured) during Sunday Mass, killing or wounding nearly the whole congregation, including three priests. Plenty of carnage, maximum publicity, multiplied fear – these are grist to the mill of terror.

    But now Islamist fanatics have renewed encouragement. Since the Arab Spring, which predictably announced a Christian winter, the Salafists’ soul-mates are either in charge of government or sufficiently powerful to protect those committing the atrocities. Constitutions are being re-written to increase the pressure against non-Muslims. Blasphemy laws are being strengthened to magnify the threat to all who don’t conform. This covenant between Islamist rulers and the mob is sealed in Christian blood. In October 2011, Egyptian forces massacred two dozen Copts. The Copts were protesting about the failure of the authorities to protect their religious freedom from attacks. The government’s answer could hardly have been clearer. Naturally, the White House, in its response, called for “restraint on all sides”.

    With western – including British – support, the Saudi-funded Salafists are freely moving into Syria. As always, it is the Christians who suffer most. Already 50,000 have been driven out of Homs. Those in Aleppo are on the move. Nor is it just indigenous Christians who are fleeing, but the thousands of Christian refugees who arrived from Iraq, itself overturned and then abandoned by the West. To cap this record, Britain pursues the most hard-hearted policy towards Christians fleeing persecution of any major western country.

    Middle Eastern Christians have always struggled to survive. Under Islam, Christians were never equals. The usefulness of individuals could result in privileges. But these brought the curse of envy. Christians enjoyed conditional protection, not rights. The creation of the state of Israel made the lives of the squeezed minorities elsewhere still more difficult. In the late 1940s the Muslim Brotherhood would chant: “Today is Saturday, tomorrow will be Sunday – O Christians!” In other words, Christians would soon follow Jews on the road to exile.

    Now they do.

    Christians are not collateral damage. They are the target. The West is not stopping it. Western politicians are complicit in it..."




    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/com...ans-in-the-west-do-to-help-those-in-the-east/
     
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    So some of the existing representatives get to choose who can and can't run in the elections to replace them?!?!?

    That's an interesting democratic model.. In fact it doesn't seem very democratic at all. Do any other countries have that?
     
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    Maybe, meanwhile Ill tell Bibi you support him.
     
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    What happened to the 109 times??????


    Jew lover !!!!!
     
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    The 47 times were from Europe and Russia alone, and over 1000 yrs.

    The other occasions must involve lands not in Europe or Russia and/or, over a longer time period.
     
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    No, the 109 times were all from Europe too, perhaps they include ppl that also look Jewish, we cant have those....


    Anyway, its Chrsitmas and ppl tend to be more "loving" and tolerant to each other so you should'nt mislead them to think its only 47 times....., keep up the hate Jacky.

    And dont forget that Santa is a Mossad spy!! shoot on sight, or take him alive if possible.
     
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    The 47 is part of the 109 figure.

    Anyway, it seems that historically, and today, the evidence all points the same thing - no one seems to like you.

    Why not?
     
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    Its in your blood, but Im not holding that against you :)
     
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    Don't alter my quote.
     
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    the predatory spirit is not something you can turn on or off. once it's been turned on it can never be turned off or you'll quickly be eaten by it. what is capitalism if not a predatory spirit? no capitalist nation can argue against a predator without poisoning it's self. either israel is a fellow predator at the table with our same honor among thieves or america is desperately poisoned.

    and america IS desperately poisoned.
     
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    I'm scratching my head in disbelief as to what Gilos is quibling abt. 47 or 109 . which IM O depends who was doing the counting. Its untypical for a Jew not to want to choose the higher figures and exaggerate Jewish "victimhood " Innit ?


    or have I misread his posts. ?


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    No one likes the smartest person in the room.
     
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    I think I'll give Scrabble sets this year.
     
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    I thought they would have liked the higher end figure most of all. More chance for them to blame everyone else, and crank up their perpetual victimhood.

    Either way, what it does show, like now, is that through all of time, people have never liked the Jews.

    And you cannot brush it all away, by assuming Jews were always innocent, and everyone just woke up on the Jew hating side of the bed, for no reason, at all.

    Why can't they perhaps show some humility, and rather than blame everyone else, look at what it is they do, over and over, that creates the antipathy.

    Failure to do so will lead to their own demise.

    I suggest they do it fast. But I doubt they will.
     
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    Well they are not that smart, otherwise they would have figured out that being bastards leads to their own demise, in the end.
     
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    Here you are Jack, preaching to the end of Jewry again. You fail.
     
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    yea, and one of them already gave up the fight :)
     
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    Doing the same things, in all of time, has brought them the same results.

    But never have they before done it on such a global scale, you see.

    It is logical, and in keeping with patterns, 109 times, that due to this ignorance, the 110 time will be the last and final time.

    No more chances.
     

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