Democrats Block GOP Bill That Would Restart Keystone XL, Federal Oil Lease Program

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  1. hawgsalot

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    Cool story now tell us when Biden sold those leases? You know they go through a government sale right?
     
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    You guys need to make up your mind 9hobby been screaming we're pumping as much as 2019 lol. Dems just can't get their stories together these days.
     
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    The pipeline would make it easier to import more oil (the dirtiest oil in the planet from Canada), so its ironic they call it Energy Independence from Russia Act, not to mention the fact that we already stopped imports from Russia. You need to realize when your politicians are playing you.

    Did you know price of oil dropped 24% in a week?
     
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    Why do you want carbon emissions to ship all that oil versus a clean pipeline? You realize they're still shipping it via Rail and tankers right? I will never understand greenies, talk about reducing carbon emissions yet tie up the cleanest possible way to get from Canada to refinery. Then want to not pump more closer to the refinery. Can't see the forest for the trees.
     
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    Yet another EGO Partisan divisive posts. If you guys notice it's all he does, no substance just divisive rhetoric.
     
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    Because it is seen as a white good ole boy industry. Keep whitey down. Saudi oil is better!
     
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    Mute him. Anyone with boy in their name...
     
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    It's a pipeline not a well and the US courts have basically blocked it.
     
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    Sure do, He sold them in 2021.

    New drilling permits:

    FY 2016: 2,184
    FY 2017: 2,486
    FY 2018: 3,388
    FY 2019: 3,181
    FY 2020: 4,226
    FY 2021: 4,859

    https://www.blm.gov/programs-energy-and-minerals-oil-and-gas-oil-and-gas-statistics

    Let's look at calendar year comparison:

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    So Biden is actually approving more permits than Trump did in his first year. Yet, the narrative seems to be that Biden is killing the oil industry despite approving more permits than Trump in the first year. So now the question is: do I believe main stream media or what the numbers are telling me?
     
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    Duh jesus it's an active well the pipeline would reduce the dirty carbon emissions shipping that happens every day. Learn up, why do dems want to pollute when they can have a clean efficient pipeline???? Follow the money instead of just msnbc.
     
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    Well nice try now you've learned what a permit is, why is that by the way, is Biden oil lover? Might want to check some court cases but seriously glad your digging deeper. Now look up oil drilling leases and how many sales he has had, which is what we're discussing. Offshore and inshore oil lease sales...
     
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    You are totally mistaken and woefully misinformed; the Keystone XL pipeline is not active and never was. You need to research this before continuing down that rabbit hole.
    The project was abandoned but not one drop of oil ever ran through it. The American Indians had them tied up in the courts for years.

    In addition a pipeline is NOT A WELL.
     
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    Uhh huh no crap, it's a pipeline to support the freaking wells. Those wells are operating today and shipped to texas, via rail. The pipeline would not only allow more oil to be shipped but also would be a helluva lot less carbon emissions. The only thing dems are doing is supporting carbon emissions, you're not stopping the oil being drilled and you're not stopping it being refined and your not stopping it being sold.
     
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    Are you sure you know what a permit is? A permit is done by he lease holder or operator, so the number of leases sold will be somewhat in line with permits granted.

    I'm sure you are trying your best to make this Biden's fault though. Unfortunately, the data doesn't lie. Now, I'm sure your next argument will be that he isn't approving permits fast enough or that he is scaring potential investors.

    Any data to support your argument? Not a single number provided by you.
     
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    LOL, follow along. Federal Government has offshore and inshore lease sales. Oil companies buy them, they then explore. If they find what they deem to be a good location, they file to the regulatory and environment commissions for drilling permits. Once they receive all the permits they drill for oil. Biden hasn't had one inshore sale in 12 months, only president in decades to go 12 months without a sale. He did have one offshore sale and the greenies sued for environmental purposes and Biden administration hasn't appealed. The whole dang thread is about leases. Pro line has said over and over Biden issued more leases, what he failed to tell you is that those leases were due to Trump Administration sales. Biden nixed them they sued and the supreme court told Biden by law they have to issue the leases.
     
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    So the left now proposes price fixing. Cause that has always worked so well for commies in the past.

    Prices go up because of supply and demand. All of this is explained by a guy named Adam Smith. As I keep saying in these sorts of threads. Wealth of Nations should be required reading to graduate from High School.
     
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    Wait until people discover how dependent modern food production is on oil. Most modern progressive liberals are liberal because they have never gone hungry.
     
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    It only took Putin one weekend.
     
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    Jimmy Carter redux.
     
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    To end Covid for sure, now gas prices and inflation were soaring before he attacked.
     
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    Were those gas prices even close to what we pay now for a gallon?:roflol:
     
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    The Biden Administration is like the Carter Administration in its overall ineptitude on a plethora of issues. The Biden and Carter administration's problems deal more with their politics and morals and less with their intelligence although I consider making the wrong decisions repeatedly as being unintelligent.:roll:
     
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    It took Ukraine and the US a longer time to screw up relations with Russia.
     
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    OK, changing your original position when your so called 'argument' is trashed. At least you are well aware of the weaknesses of your partisan position of choice.
     
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    Soaring ? Not even close. Putin jacked up gas prices over $1/gallon in this country alone.

    Why is it so hard for you to admit that ? Are you another Putin cheerleader like Dirty Donnie ?
     

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